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July 24, 2014

We have a dictator in office

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  • gecroix posted at 1:19 pm on Sat, Nov 2, 2013.

    gecroix Posts: 2536

    Of course stimulus was needed. Initially, it worked to stop the slide. A slide started by putting people in homes they could never pay for, with the resulting collapse of that market. We need a ride in the Wayback Machine to find the genesis of that initiative. Yet, today, we're back trying to make it easier for people to buy homes OR to 'renegotiate' and get them cheaper than at contracted price. Einstein was exactly right about what that is.
    Now, 5 years later, what was labeled as additional stimulus along the way has been thrown down mostly rat holes. 'Green energy'. 'Shovel Ready'. 'Cash for Clunkers'. Just a small sampling of the absorbers of 100's of millions to billions of taxpayer dollars that have produced ZERO return. To date, real unemployment is still over 10% (the labor force is at it's lowest since about 1970), and if under-employed or part timers not by choice are figured in, it's closer to 14%. Interest rates are still near zero, and the feds are still buying up about 85 billion with a B monthly to keep it that way, else there would be no talk even with a wink wink wink of 'the economy is recovering slowly, so stay the course' The course would be following Thelma and Louise.
    Theen, to show exactly what the face of 'fundamental change' looks like, the architects of the housing crash under Fanny and Freddy, Dodd and Frank, were chosen to do 'financial reform'. Lots of chicken feathers on the fox guard's mouth after that brilliant bit of MR. Fixit work.
    Over a third of the population on food stamps, and real jobs creation 'sabotaged' by a plethora of orgasmic new regulatory encumbrances, and the ACA. The 'signature achievement' of the Administration is the biggets drag on the economy.
    Some signature.
    Counterfit.
    Be fair?
    Sure.
    How about you? Is your advice good enough for self-serve?

     
  • RonShelby posted at 12:33 pm on Sat, Nov 2, 2013.

    RonShelby Posts: 441

    MMmmm.... So you would have not wanted economic stimulation after the market and real estate collapse? Also, much of that was already started under Bush. The collapse was in the fall of 2008, Obama didn't come in until 2009. By that point much of the bailout money to GM and others was already committed by the Bush administration. In addition, the war commitments were already underway. The momentum of spending is not something that could be turned off by a spicket. Be fair, the blame is well shared.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 2:11 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 1648

    You really need to get Spell check! I didn't know who Colbert was so I did a web search on him. Seems that he is a comedian on on Comedy Central. Enough said. Well, even Saturday Night Live got it right when they said only 6 people got Obamacare!

     
  • sverige1 posted at 1:56 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3039

    I think Frau Merkel needs to "chill". Were they listening in on her conversations with her manicurist? Besides -- Her country misbehaved in both the wars, WW1 and WW2, the big one. They still need watchful eyes and ears on them.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 1:53 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3039

    Colbert is always right. I'd trust his word over Sanitarium's anytime.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 1:05 pm on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 1648

    sverige, ............talk about beating a dead horse!
    As a teacher in an area high school we had some Northern European foreign exchange students. Several decided to marry local girls and settle in the good ole USA. Wonder why? I'm glad that those people you mentioned are happy.
    "Happiest in the world" is a matter of OPINION, not a fact. You cannot measure happiness especially since everyone's concept of happiness is different. To Charlie Brown, Happiness is a warm puppy!
    Rick Santorum may have been referring to those blasphemous hooligans. YOU and COLBERT DON'T KNOW! Only some minds would assume some racist intent- unless you are able to read minds!

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 11:37 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 1648

    My therapist has a remedy only the American people can provide, a new conservative president. You may disagree but the world had more respect for the United States under President Bush's tenure than under the current regime. If you don't believe me ask the world leaders this administration had "bugged", especially Angela Merkel, German Chancellor.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 10:58 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3039

    Response to carlosrponce posted at 10:16 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013:

    Well, carlosponcie -
    I gave a link a few days ago that said the Danes and the Finns were the happiest in the world. That wasn't my study, but rather an article that I simply was perusing. They don't have unhappy fossils longing for the old days. They go tango dancing. Even 60 Minutes had a story about that years ago.

    Please review recent history when conservative/republican folks made Obama's nationality and birth certificate an issue. Even Donald Trump (a conservative/republican) has not let up on beating that dead horse. I remember years ago, Loretta Lynn saying that she wouldn't vote for Dukakis b/c she couldn't "even say his name". The conservative/republican party is wrought with racism and fearmongering. Even the comedians use conservatives' fodder on that. I remember when Mr. Santorum made a slip of the tongue and almost said "all those bla - -." [referring to blacks]. Colbert made a roaring comical "take" on it.

    Yessiree, the republicans/conservatives/teapartiers are on the "outs". Our country has evolved, finally.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 10:44 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3039

    Response to carlosrponce posted at 6:10 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013:

    What you've mentioned regarding "what we don't have now that we had before Obama" are very non-tangible thought processes.

    Just "thinking" that we don't have "peace of mind" is not a very strong argument at all. What it does say, perhaps, that if that kind of thinking encompasses you to the point that your life is miserable - then therapy might be in order.

    There's activities such as cognitive therapy, which encourages the patient to bring in more positive self-talk. That could remedy your 4 1/2-year aversion to the Obama presidency. Truth is, I don't think whichever president is in "power" is going to have much effect on my personal life. I'll still pay my taxes (unfairly proportionally more than very rich folks). I'll still need to renew my truck's inspection sticker each year. Let's see, I still have to pay school taxes. I was squabbling all about those things when "Shrub" Bush was around.

     
  • gecroix posted at 10:40 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    gecroix Posts: 2536

    A dictator in office?
    No.
    By his own personal actions, especially as revealed in the last few days, I'd say NOT a dictator.
    Only half of that.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 10:16 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 1648

    Even Newsweek proclaimed "We're All Socialists Now". The United States has devolved into a socialist state. That is a fact. And a government run on socialism is communistic in nature.
    Your bias is showing: Liberal UT Profs like the students and Conservative ones are accusatory? Come on! I know quite a few UT students and grads who can testify this statement is backward.
    Again, happiness is in the eye of the beholder. If they are happy in Northern Europe, good for them. But DON'T force your definition of happiness on me!
    I wish you could equate Conservatism with the Republican Party but you cannot. Nixon an both Bushs had vestiges of conservatism but were really moderate. Your opinion of Ford and Reagan is simply that, YOUR Opinion with little basis on fact. If they played Obama's video of him walking into a window at the White House as many times as they showed Ford stumbling you'd call him a klutz too!
    And the ONLY people who bring up Obama's race are LIBERALS. Conservatives could care less if he were pink, green or polka dotted! When we disagree with his policy why do you play the race card? It is sheer nonsense. When liberals attacked Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice, Herman Cain, Colonel West, Benjamin Carson, etc. we didn't play that game. Nor did we call you anti-Hispanic when you attacked Ted Cruz.
    Collaborative????? You've got to be joking or living in an alternate universe! What nonsense!

     
  • RonShelby posted at 9:50 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    RonShelby Posts: 441

    In regards to the 1990's surplus. The discussion is not how it got there. Its the simple fact that a huge surplus was lost. That's the key.

     
  • RonShelby posted at 9:49 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    RonShelby Posts: 441

    Here's a really good description of the history of the current deficit which is fairly well balanced. http://www.businessinsider.com/us-budget-deficit-2011-7

     
  • sverige1 posted at 7:06 am on Fri, Nov 1, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3039

    Response to gerhardmeinecke posted at 7:35 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013:

    It's difficult to educate a cross-section of citizens (many of them forum contributors here) who have been brainwashed for decades into believing that our modified republic system has become "socialism", and "on the way" to marxism/communism - or whatever "catch phrase" they want to us.

    I recall in my required government classes at UT that the most intelligent instructors were the broad-based thinkers who illustrated the virtues of each economical system. They were the liberal profs who liked the students, as opposed to the stuffy conservative instructors who were accusatory in regard to students' reading abilities, thought processes. They were the quintessical "bad uncles" who didn't encourage the niece/nephew, but rather shot them down.

    Ipso facto, the Northern Europeans have got the best systems and the happiest citizenry - with liberal familial/social ideals, along with an open view of economy, and an obligation to help others. It's no surprise that places like Sweden and Denmark also have liberal social laws that preclude a wide populace from being the "moral police" - as we have here with the so-called "family" groups. That explains the USA's vestiges of religious intolerance and gay/lesbian bashing.

    Regarding interchangeable uses of "conservative" and "republican": I venture to say that you CAN generally fuse "conservative" with "republican" in our nation. Since the early 70s (and I blame it on Nixon), the republicans have become the looney fringe of whom every comedian makes fun. Other countries laugh at our string of republican/conservative leaders. Ford was a klutz. Reagan showed signs of dementia even when he was first campaigning in the 70s. It's just that no one dared to point it out. His presidency was wrought with simplistic parables - the most boring example of a grandfather anyone could have. I could go on regarding the 2nd "Shrub" Bush, but I shall do that in a later entry.

    More to the subject at hand and the title of this letter: Obama exemplifies the idealism that the post-baby boomers took on. I think the prejudice towards him is threefold: 1. his mixed race, 2. being the 1st Generation X President (roughly speaking), and 3. having a leadership style that isn't overbearing (and certainly not "dictator"), but rather collaborative. Of course, that invites the "community organizer" accusation which is also innacurate. Over the course of the past 2 decades, leadership styles have moved to the more desirable Theory Y (workers are ambitious/self-motivated), as opposed to Theory X - where workers are thought of as "lazy". Republicans/conservatives love to peg non-leaders and workers into the X category.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 7:44 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 1648

    ASK Dr. Benjamin Carson who was audited by the IRS shortly after criticizing Obamacare during the Prayer Breakfast. Give this administration time and they'll get the rest of us!

     
  • gerhardmeinecke posted at 7:35 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    gerhardmeinecke Posts: 108

    Not defending it, but Socialism works in many countries that function economically quite well and have strong constitutional rights, i.e. Sweden, Netherlands, Germany. Sweeping categorical statement are easy to make, harder to back up. You may be confusing Socialism with Communism. There is a difference. And the latter do not work well.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 6:10 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 1648

    sverige, you must like Crickets. I like them too, especially with Buddy Holly as their lead singer!
    What did I have on 1/19/2009 that I don't have today? PEACE OF MIND!
    We have gone from a president who took responsibility for the executive branch to a "Know-Nothing" president.
    Remember Sgt. Schultz from Hogan's Heroes? " I see nothing, I hear nothing, I see nothing, I know nothing."
    Well we now have President Schultz in office, who knew nothing about Ben-Gazi, the IRS scandals, etc. and he accepts NO responsibility for anything his administration blunders.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 5:55 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 1648

    You have made the mistake of equating Republicans with Conservatives. Unfortunately that is not true, I wish it were. We, Conservatives, plan on educating the populace. Obama and the Liberals are kept in power by the low-information voters. An informed voter knows that socialism does not work. I'm sorry, Obama calls Socialism "re-distribution of wealth".

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 5:44 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 1648

    By BS do you mean Barack Stuff?

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 5:41 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 1648

    Number 1: For REAL Health Care Reform: Remove the ACA -it is a joke.
    Number 2: Set up guidelines for Health savings accounts.
    Number 3: Let the private sector provide catastrophic health insurance.
    Number 4: Let these accounts be interstate.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 5:35 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 1648

    Funny when Democrats attack Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice, Herman Cain, Colonel West, Benjamin Carson, etc. they don't consider themselves racist but dare say one word to disagree with how the nation is being handled by the current president then you are considered a racist.
    Should I consider you anti-Hispanic just because of the names you call Ted Cruz? No, I will not stoop so low- but if Ted were Democrat, you know YOU would.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 5:26 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 1648

    RonShelby, I suggest that you subscribe to newspaperarchives.com and read how President Clinton fought against a balanced budget then took credit for it when polls showed the people liked the balanced budget. ( Galveston Daily News 1994-200) The actual credit should be given to Newt Gingrich and the Republican Congress between 1994 and 2000. Yes, Bush Jr. fought the war on terror increasing the deficit without curbing America's appetite for entitlements. He fell in the polls because he acted like a Liberal!

     
  • sverige1 posted at 5:19 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3039

    Response to gecroix posted at 11:43 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013"

    "Not a dictator. A dictator works in the open.
    A narcissistic ideologue."

    Well, geocriox - you actually made an accurate statement in that. I venture to say that every President holds the narcissist personality trait. Also, a "drive" that makes them want power. All Presidents have such leadership qualities of wanting to control and manipulate. Presidents (and managerial types in general) do not share Mother Theresa's nor Gandhi's personality traits.

     
  • jtpatlan posted at 5:03 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    jtpatlan Posts: 27

    Republicans have a implemented a plan to take away voting rights. That is monumental. Rule by the Koch Brothers. Conservatives stay in power in their districts by gerrymandering. That is the plan.

     
  • jtpatlan posted at 4:58 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    jtpatlan Posts: 27

    Thanks Ron. Rush Limbaough fans will believe anything he says.

     
  • mytoby3113 posted at 4:24 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    mytoby3113 Posts: 277

    Hey RonShelby, the words you spoke were so true., Thanks.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 4:05 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3039

    Yessiree!!! A 3rd term. How about Hillary and Obama as co-Presidents?

    I proposed this question just yesterday to another poster, so I'll ask again. What is it that you had on January 19, 2009 (the day before Obama's 1st term inaugural) that you don't have today on Oct 31, 2013? [crickets chirp]

    Paranoia fringe behavior and speech, such as what was exhibited in this letter, unfortunately can spread like wildfire. That kind of thought process catapulted the Tea Party movement.

    I'm confident that this type of rage regarding our "battered" Constitution and "dictator-like" leadership will wane by the time Hillary gets into office.

    HILLARY/MICHELLE 2016

     
  • IHOG posted at 3:17 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    Saraishelafs?

    Deficits coming down faster than ever before?
    Because they were higher than any before BHO.
    This year is still projected to be more than twice as much as any deficit before BHO.
    5 times as much as the final Bush deficit.
    Most of the reduction is credited to the Sequester.

     
  • IHOG posted at 3:01 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    With theft, waste and fraud in government spending. Money from the treasury is kicked back after his friends and supporters deduct their service fees.
    Kickbacks on $3,700 billion spent can make the spender, his friends and supporters very rich very fast. At taxpayers expence.
    Spreading the wealth is very profitable.

     
  • IHOG posted at 2:53 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    To corporations that made big donations to him. To friends and supporters.
    To anyone he wanted to become donnors or supporters.

     
  • IHOG posted at 2:47 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    BKewi1964
    By spending the treasury on things returning most of the money to the spenders. Called "laundering" . Money goes out to friends, who keep a service fee then return the rest to the spender. Every billion spent could have a $100 million service fee and a $100 million kick back. His friends don't mind kicking back $100 million if they get to keep $100 million. Spreading the wealth to friends and supporters is very profitable.
    When 3,700, billion is spent it can quickly make the spender very rich very fast.
    Eliminating theft, waste and fraud in government spending could by itself ballance the federal budget but it would also eliminate the kick backs.

     
  • gecroix posted at 1:42 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    gecroix Posts: 2536

    Rather than handle what's happening now, let's try to justify or excuse it by what has happened in the past. Must have been a B trying to balance the books with last year's money versus what's on hand now.
    Anyway, maybe we should just move on...
    [wink]

     
  • bbock posted at 1:01 pm on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    bbock Posts: 7

    Racist? How? Please explain your comment.

     
  • bkewl1964 posted at 11:51 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    bkewl1964 Posts: 7

    Who specifically did he give waivers to?

    Where is the Tea-Party plan for health-care reform?

     
  • gecroix posted at 11:43 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    gecroix Posts: 2536

    No.
    Not a dictator. A dictator works in the open.
    A narcissistic ideologue. MUCH more dangerous.
    Now:
    "Under Obama, deficit spending is being reduced at the fastest rate ever."
    Dear lady, you DO know that's ONLY because our President nearly tripled the deficit in his first year in office, to 1.4 TRILLION, and kept it above a trillion until last year, don't you. And it's falling now MOSTLY because of the actual spending cuts of the Sequester. Ironically, THAT was proposed BY the White House, which now so actively would have us believe that only the hated Republicans were to blame.
    But, that's more pants on fire. The rest of the fall is because of RECORD HIGH TAX REVENUES, as we are taxed more while making less. That's only good for the Takers.
    "I know of no constitutional right that has been abridged. No one will give examples except Obamacare which has been reviewed by the Supreme Court and found constitutional."
    As but one example , We The People have a 'Constitutional right' to expect our Leadres to follow the laws of the land, as they swear to do in their oaths of office. Cherrypicking which parts of laws to enforce, or simply refusing to enforce the ones he doesn't agree with, are the mainstay of the Obama Administration, and a few minutes on Google will turn up a day full of reading on the subject for you. As such, our Constitutional right to honest and effective leadership has been abridged.
    As for Obamacare, you are partially correct, but with a caveat. A BIG one.
    The Supreme Court actually found that the ACA was NOT Constitutional as presented to the Court by the Solicitor General in his arguments as part of the Government's power to regulate interstate commerce, as we were all repeatedly told was the basis for it's legallity by supporters of it. The Chief Justice declared that Obamacare was in fact a TAX, a description DENIED REPEATEDLY by the framers and advocates of it, and as such survived AS a TAX, under the government's power to tax. THAT was an example of our Constitutional rights being harmed, too, because under the Constitution SCOTUS does not make or rewrite law, it interprets the Constitutionality of same as presented to them. Chief Justice Roberts said all that needed saying about his decision by leaving the country immediately for an extended speach making tour.
    Of course, he simply joined other activist judges who have ignored the Constitution to fabricate from whole cloth or thin air, for whatever reason, that which could not stand on it's own.
    Don't believe me? Look it up yourself.
    Strong arm tactics?
    [beam][beam]
    MY my my my...
    Mr POT says Mr Kettle is BLACK...

     
  • drumb47 posted at 11:33 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    drumb47 Posts: 222

    IHOG, just take your cone shaped robe out the closet. Your comments are that racist.

     
  • bkewl1964 posted at 11:30 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    bkewl1964 Posts: 7

    I hear the old saying but where is the "truth and facts"?

    How is he going to become a Trillionair?

    Paranoia = big $$$$$ just ask Rush

     
  • drumb47 posted at 11:30 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    drumb47 Posts: 222

    IHOG, fact, "an empty wagon makes the most noise." Oh! If you don't want people to know how less informed you are, try shutting up.

     
  • bkewl1964 posted at 11:26 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    bkewl1964 Posts: 7

    IHOG

    How is he going to raid the treasury?

    Now if you want to get into a debate on how Bush & Cheney raided the treasury then there is plenty of evidence there. Ex. CEO Cheney made plenty of money from the no-bid contract awarded to Halliburton..

     
  • IHOG posted at 10:55 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    Oops.
    Typing too fast let errors creep in.
    Omamacare should be Obamacare.
    Common criminal Jan. 2015 should be Jan. 2017.

     
  • IHOG posted at 10:49 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    Yes Sara

    SCOTUS said Omamacare was a legal tax. BHO gave 2,500 waivers from the Omamacare tax to his friends and supporters. He has no legal authority to hand out exemptions from a "law of the land" tax. Delaying part of a "law of the land" for friends and supporters is a violation of the constitution.
    Other examples of his violations of the Constitution are available. Like using the IRS to harrass his opposition? Dozens of his ex orders violate his constitutional authority.
    Lockstep Democrats are why he gets away with it.
    SCOTUS ruled sitting presidents are imune from criminal law except by impeachment.
    January 2015 BHO will be a common criminal again.
    Bush made the mistake of giving Clinton a blanket pardon.
    BHO should be charged and convicted instead.

     
  • IHOG posted at 10:17 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    BKewi1964

    You aparently haven't noticed Dictators always amass great wealth by raiding their treasury.
    He might become wealthy enough to buy Kenya.
    He's already adopted the lifestyle of a dictator.

     
  • IHOG posted at 10:10 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    Jake!
    You proved an old saying. "liberals hate the truth and facts infuriate them".
    I think the U.S. will survive if voters understand BHO isn't the real problem.
    Lock step Democrats supporting and defending him are the problem.

    Anything except their talking points is verboten.
    They ask what would Obama get for ruining the U.S. economy. He would become the richest progressive in the land. Perhaps the worlds first Trillionair.

     
  • bkewl1964 posted at 9:11 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    bkewl1964 Posts: 7

    I heard pretty much the same thing on the radio the other day from Rush. 1 thing the GOP has figured out is paranoia = big $$$$$. Really? what would Obama have to gain by purposely destroying the country. Do you really thing he wants to move back to his home country of Kenya?

     
  • Island Runner posted at 8:16 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    Island Runner Posts: 378

    More GOP BS from the biggest BS'er in the county

     
  • saraishelafs posted at 6:58 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    saraishelafs Posts: 59

    Really! Reality is hard to come by if the only sources used are Fox News and Republican propaganda. Unfortunately, here in Texas, Republicans have gained a foot hold and are very successful in brainwashing people who do not bother to research the facts they are given. Under Obama, deficit spending is being reduced at the fastest rate ever. I know of no constitutional right that has been abridged. No one will give examples except Obamacare which has been reviewed by the Supreme Court and found constitutional. People who refuse to believe the Supreme Court are probably the ones who advocate for disobeying the law and using strong arm techniques instead of following law and custom to win elections and change the law using prescribed procedure.

     
  • drumb47 posted at 6:49 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    drumb47 Posts: 222

    Jack, if the President of the United States is a dictator, how is it that you're able to write such garbage in this paper?

    Lay off the tea...

     
  • RonShelby posted at 6:42 am on Thu, Oct 31, 2013.

    RonShelby Posts: 441

    ??? Guess you ignore 2 Terms of Bush's lead that took us from a budget surplus during Clinton, to deficit, to market collapse, business closings, underwater mortgages, Terrorist attacks without intelligence to forwarn, accusations of WMD against countries that didn't have them, increased gov't spying intrusion, and then very expensive wars.

    Mmmmmm,...Somehow I think, even with some problems, were still on a more fruitful track then the one his predecessor led us down. If the constitution had allowed it, I really don't think we could have survived another term of Bush.