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October 21, 2014

Hispanics need to get out the vote

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  • carlosrponce posted at 7:18 pm on Sat, Apr 26, 2014.

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    "[T]hen the dad must reevaluate his stance, and hopefully unconditionally love this daughter." I wish that were true. You are thinking like someone with a westernized mind with some Judeo-Christian background. Look up "honor killings".

     
  • Jake Buckner posted at 6:56 pm on Sat, Apr 26, 2014.

    Jake Buckner Posts: 1675

    I'm coining the term "liberal realist" to describe Lars.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 6:34 pm on Sat, Apr 26, 2014.

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    Response to carlosrponce posted at 1:48 pm on Sat, Apr 26, 2014:

    Well, ponce -
    I think the least of a "traditional" Islamic man's problems would be me to question him about his family dynamics. If he is truly an assimilated individual living in the US with daughters, he's very likely had private family discussions with his children about their beliefs regarding being chaste and/or a virgin before marriage.

    I would think that a loving Islamic father, however, would have to reassess his rigid family rules regarding virginal daughters. If one of his daughters said, "Hey, Dad, I have this boyfriend and we are having sex", then the dad must reevaluate his stance, and hopefully unconditionally love this daughter.

    We adults/fathers are not going to be in the backseat of the SUV with our daughter and her boyfriend when they make the crucial decision to stay virgins and limit their love to perhaps heavy petting. It's just as simple as that. Similar to what I've been saying in regard to a son or daughter coming home and saying they're gay/lesbian, a parent is going to have to realize that the son/daughter is eventually make his/her own life decisions. Family religion and tradition has to be considered, and perhaps reformatted to promote unity and togetherness.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 1:48 pm on Sat, Apr 26, 2014.

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    sverige, next time you see an Islamic father ask him that question. I double dog dare you.
    As for SIDS, the rate dropped off considerably when they asked parents and other caretakers NOT to put their infants to sleep on their bellies but on their backs. It used to be called the Back to Sleep Program but has been renamed the Safe to Sleep Program.
    http://www.nichd.nih.gov/sts/Pages/default.aspx
    As for limiting sexual contact to one partner as a way of preventing AIDS there are billions of examples where this has been been shown true. Only if one of the partners accidentally comes in contact with body fluids from an AIDS carrier can it be transmitted otherwise. Scenario: Dr. Joy Jones accidentally pricks herself with a needle used on an AIDS patient. Although she has had only sex with her husband she can get the AIDS virus.
    Conjecture: If sex were limited only to one's marriage partner, AIDS would be severely curtailed within our lifetime.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 10:47 am on Sat, Apr 26, 2014.

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    Response to carlosrponce posted at 8:49 am on Sat, Apr 26, 2014:

    Why not ask the same question to an Islamic-faithed person? Not sure where's the "dare" in that. As for thinking that if everyone limited sex to the opposite sex and only in marriage, that such actions would have prevented AIDs. Well, that can't be proven.

    Besides, (and being from a non-majored science background) - I always thought diseases and their formation of, as well as the spreading of such makes no reference to disease origins. That is, the formation and spread of disease is a random occurrance. After all, innocent babies get death-dealing diseases. We can't say a baby got "sudden infant death" syndrome because the little one "committed a sin". I mean, that goes into a whole new field on inquiry. For example - is the number of SIDS cases lessened if the baby was an already Baptized baby?

    See how the debate over "morality versus disease" can get ridiculous? You would think that Catholics would have a leg-up on the prevention of sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) since most of us were baptized as babies. The Protestants would, in your view, have more SIDS cases because many of them were baptized not as babies, but later in life. They, in turn, have been living a young lifetime being "unsaved", and thus suceptible to SIDS, and perhaps the mumps, AIDs and a whole myriad of potentially lethal illnesses.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 8:49 am on Sat, Apr 26, 2014.

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    Inquiry, sverige. You addressed that that to me and you know that I am a Hispanic Christian. Would you dare to have questioned a man of the Islamic faith if the females in his family had maintained their virginity? True Christians follow the teachings of the Bible. Today we have a lot of "nominal" Christians. I pray they see the light. If we all followed the Bible's teachings, AIDS (SIDA in Español) would not be a problem.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 8:29 am on Sat, Apr 26, 2014.

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    Response to gecroix posted at 6:55 pm on Fri, Apr 25, 2014:

    I think you need to be more specific. Which of the other posters' answers were, in your view, non-answers? If you're referring to my delineation of the specific problems Hispanics face, it was a very complete answer to your "What issues impact 'the hispanic community' that do not also impact the rest of the folks in the country" question.

    Lack of personal health care is an issue that does not nearly impact the Anglo population. Being passed over for a job because of gender and race has not historically been an issue that has impacted the Anglo population. In decades past, it truly was a white man's world. It's changing now. After all, I've lived a few decades, and I don't see nearly the advantages of being white/male these days as compared to my grandfather. Are you getting the picture?

     
  • gecroix posted at 6:55 pm on Fri, Apr 25, 2014.

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    A very interesting non-answer, indeed...

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 4:27 pm on Fri, Apr 25, 2014.

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    Believe it or not there are still people who maintain chaste lives until marriage. God bless them! They are to be applauded but they are often ridiculed in movies and other media.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 3:23 pm on Fri, Apr 25, 2014.

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    Response to carlosrponce posted at 8:43 am on Fri, Apr 25, 2014:

    Now, carlos -
    About that AIDs thing. We aren't in a world where our parents and grandparents are in. If you are relatively young and younger than that, chances are if you are on the dating scene you will likely find a potential mate who has had sexual intercourse before. To many of our dismay, our pick of a future partner could be a person who has found us and agrees with monogomy, love, etc. But, in her/his previous sexual life, the individual we fall in love with could have been promiscuous and/or had several sex partners.

    By the grace of God you "found" each other, yet your new partner may still hold latent any disease that hasn't surfaced yet. Point I'm making is that we're not in the 50s anymore where everyone presumably meets others who are "pure". Therefore, it's now not a simple notion of adhering to the "Biblical mores of sexual conduct". Things nowadays are much more "fluid", if you pardon for a minute the pun.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 2:56 pm on Fri, Apr 25, 2014.

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    I know what you mean. We can't have people being able to buy insurance at 60 because they had a heart valve replaced when they were 12. There's no reason for insurance companies to be covering college kids under their parents' policy. If you can't afford to get insurance and go to college, pick one. It doesn't matter that both of those provisions are in the Conservative/Republican Healthcare foundation. Since there are things you don't like about ACA, you want to repeal the whole thing, especially the parts you agree with.

    The Patriot Act was always billed as only targetting suspected terrorists. However, it was never built that way. There were privacy and free speech advocates back when the law was drafted complaining about these very potential abuses, but we were all assured that would never happen and that it was all in our best interest anyway. The only reason it didn't start that way was because they didn't have the technology available to capture all the data they can capture today.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 8:43 am on Fri, Apr 25, 2014.

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    Choices. Life is all about choices. I find it sorrowful when a child gets cancer. He or she did not make a lifestyle choice that led to that cancer. But for adults, its different. At age 12 in 1966 I heard a report on Channel 13 that Mexican -Americans had a higher rate of diabetes than Mexicans. We ate basically the same food as my primos. The main difference was tortillas. We ate white flour tortillas and they ate corn tortillas. So I gave up white flour tortillas. Really upset my mother. Choices. Dad and brother became diabetic. I am diabetes free. Look at a Mexican Bakery and you will see why there is a high rate of diabetes. "Pan de huevo" and other pastries heavy in sugar are used for breakfast. Couple that with a genetic disposition towards diabetes and you see what you get.
    AIDS- most AIDS is contracted through sexual contact. If you follow the Biblical mores of sexual conduct you should have no problem. Be careful though if you are a health care provider dealing with AIDS patients with needles and specimens.
    Obesity - I resemble that remark! Eating out is my problem and eating the wrong foods. My choice, my bad. But I exercise daily, weather permitting. Weigh is slowly coming down.
    Vaccinations are there for the asking. Some tie child vaccinations to autism to some parents hold back. They trust their television but not their physician.
    So sverige, if you were in charge we would all fall lock step into a Utopian society. Decisions would be made for us. We would all be provided a regime of government health care, government food, government care, womb to the the tomb coverage. Do I hear a "Seig Heil?"

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 7:28 am on Fri, Apr 25, 2014.

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    We can begin by removing the ACA. We can continue by discontinuing government monitoring cell phone and internet traffic. When it was restricted to suspected terrorists and under court order that was fine. But with the government buying mega-computers that can track each and every conversation made be cell phone and monitor your internet usage that too Orwellian. Think of the the people along the Red River of Texas. They own have legal deeds to their property. Now the Federal Government wants to just take it away.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 6:59 am on Fri, Apr 25, 2014.

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    Response to gecroix posted at 5:47 pm on Thu, Apr 24, 2014:

    The answer to your question lies in that ever since the dawning of what today is known as the United States, the dominant culture has been male, white, and of European descent. Since this culture dominated for so long, women and other ethnicities were (as we know from history class) treated second-class. Even to the point of slavery in regard to the African Americans.

    It's easy for us white folks to say, "Well, aren't we all the same?" Not really, given that for so long the other cultures were not enjoying the advantages of land ownership, ability to vote, and resources to be educated and prosper.

    Continued disparity among race, ethnicity and cultures is still prevelant in the health care issue. There is still much more incidents of illness/death among African Americans, Latino/Hispanic, Asian-Americans, and Native Americans. Cancer deaths are disproportionately high anmong Latino/Hispanic and Af. Americans. Vietnamese women are 5 more times likely to have cervical cancer. Did you know that statistic?

    Obesity - higher in Af. American and Mexican Americans. Infant mortality - Af. American and Native American babies die at rate that is 2-3 times higher than white American babies. Latin Americans - 2 times more likely than whites to have diabetes. African Americans - make up 47% of being diagnosed with AIDs. 79 percent of white preschoolers get fully immunized. Only 74% Af. American and 71% Hispanic/Latino children get fully vaccinated.

    Oftentimes, health services and health care organizations fail to provide culturally competent health care to our diverse racial populations. So, you see - there are differences in wants and needs among the minority populations. Lack of health care impacts cultures/races much more than us whites. These are issues that Latinos/Hispanics need to take into account when they elect either representatives who are sensitive to these issues, or representatives who downplay such issues and vote against moves to close the gaps in health care availability.

     
  • raifm posted at 5:42 am on Fri, Apr 25, 2014.

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    EVERYONE neewds to vote

     
  • kevjlang posted at 12:07 am on Fri, Apr 25, 2014.

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    "removing government intrusion into our daily lives"

    Does that mean that you're all for repealing the alcohol blue laws, decriminalizing recreational drugs, the elimination of laws specifying which people can marry which other people, what songs people can sing and where they can be sung and/or played? Or do you mean to remove government intrusion from the lives of people that share your beliefs?

     
  • gecroix posted at 9:30 pm on Thu, Apr 24, 2014.

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    I don't think any of them are going to accuse me of being a peacemaker...[beam]
    I'm satisfied that none of them can accuse me of being unfair.
    Jbgood, you ever spend any time as half of a two man felling saw team cutting trees? Everybody should have to do so.
    It teaches you real quick, with no need whatsoever for psychologists or social workers or TV talking heads, that what the guy on the other side of the saw looks like, or even thinks like, is a darn sight less important than that he pulls his own half of the saw strokes in full measure and effort.
    The reconstituting trend from the highest office in the land on down to the local offices in Podunk is to set one against another based on their differences, rather than try to unite based on their similarities. Seems to be getting quiet pervasive at all levels. Peopel need to ask why that is being done, not just go along with it.
    I call that devolution.
    It shouldn't happen to full grown men and women, and darn sure shouldn't happen in our children's schools.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 9:00 pm on Thu, Apr 24, 2014.

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    The Hispanic community is not monolithic. There is not one issue that will get the "vote out" in May or November. I vote for people who hold the same values I do regardless of ethnic origin or gender. As for me, my main concern is removing government intrusion into our daily lives, electing government officials who will exercise frugality in government spending and keep taxes down.

     
  • Jbgood posted at 8:51 pm on Thu, Apr 24, 2014.

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    gecroix,
    Sounds to me you might have to do what Old JBG has to do,...be a peacemaker in the family. My family resembles yours very much! I would say that is the reason I'm so understanding, but I won't tell that lie! That credit goes to an old slow walking black man with no education,..but plenty of wisdom,..my dad! He did not know when to stop being a good influence. He had enough brass to stand flatfooted in MY face, me....JBG,....and point his finger at me, in correcting me! I'm 25-26 year old! "Hey, nowwww....I don't never wanna "hear tell" you doing "dis"....or sometimes ...saying "dat!" "I mean "dat" nowwww! JBG: Yes sir!!!!!!
    -
    I shook his hand and gave him his props though before he died and went on to glory! When I did he broke down and cried,..turned and walked off wiping his eyes. PS If present day fathers try that today,..they would get shot!!!!!lolololololol
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    What did that man in Washington DC said about evolving? Well I suspect "We have EVOLVED away from that kind of honoring your father and mother! I'm just saying.........

     
  • gecroix posted at 8:34 pm on Thu, Apr 24, 2014.

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    To your first part, yes, that's my personal experience, up close and personal for nearly 41 years of single-source honey-do lists, and all the associated kin that came in the bargain. None of us live in Galveston now, although several used to.
    To the second speculation, I dunno...
    'This year’s election is going to greatly impact the Hispanic community for years to come.'
    Hey, I'm just a dumb 'ol country boy, but that sentence doesn't say 'greatly impact everybody', or 'all of us'.
    So, I'm hoping to get some info as to what the hispanic specific impacts are...if any.
    Maybe nothing.
    Best way to find out is by asking the one who wrote it...

     
  • Jake Buckner posted at 6:37 pm on Thu, Apr 24, 2014.

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    Answer to gecroix: I don't think there are any. Hispanics are faced with all the same issues as the rest of us. And if they live in Galveston, that's a lot.

    I think Mr Gomez is just stressing the need for them to vote. I would hope that Americans don't need to be urged, but we all know that isn't the case.

     
  • gecroix posted at 5:47 pm on Thu, Apr 24, 2014.

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    Question:
    What issues impact 'the hispanic community' that do not also impact the rest of the folks in the country?
    I've got a whole immediate family and extended family full of 100%, 50%, 25%, and 12.5% hispanics, and a number of other races and ethnicities, and they don't seem to be any different in wants and needs and plans and hopes and desire for a chance to be successful than an 'ol Piney Woods Swiss/Scotch-Irish guy like me.
    What am I missing...?

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 5:04 pm on Thu, Apr 24, 2014.

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    Poll Results:
    TX - 2014 Governor: Greg Abbott 54% - Wendy Davis 25% - (Texas Tech Unive. 04/19/2014) http://www.pollheadlines.com
    Song by the Beach Boys
    Wendy, Wendy what went wrong?
    Oh, so wrong

     
  • Jake Buckner posted at 9:32 am on Thu, Apr 24, 2014.

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    Elizabeth Beeton for mayor.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 6:53 am on Thu, Apr 24, 2014.

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    *** - - Wendy Davis for Governor- - ***