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October 25, 2014

What’s conservative about recklessness?

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  • bvresident posted at 6:07 pm on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    bvresident Posts: 1323

    You always have an excuse for bad behavior by the left. As much as I've documented that bad behavior you'd think you'd have run out of excuses but you're doing a fine job. Not very believable but very much like Jay Carney.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 4:00 pm on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3623

    Response to bvresident posted at 12:50 pm on Wed, Oct 9, 2013:

    That was an interesting article link. Thanks, read it with interest. I tend to think that with a "shutdown" like we're now having, some overzealous governmental employees (under directives of their bosses - not Obama) would do the things illustrated in the article link.

    That is, I could see this happening during ANY "shutdown". Not just one that happens to be during our current President's administration.

    I simply don't think the President has a direct decision over a region's management (Mt. Rushmore, McLean, Va) of daily park duties, esp. in the light of placing orange cones and the like.

    It's almost like when there's been a major fire at a warehouse. Well, a team of firefighters will likely stay for a long while. A manager will direct the workers to be vigilant of the remaining embers, or of remaining walls that can potentially fall. One or more of the workers will be overzealous. That's how it is, I suppose, with this "shutdown". Folks going overboard and overshuttdowning.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 3:29 pm on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3623

    gecranky posted at 2:48 pm on Wed, Oct 9, 2013 -

    Sorry, couldn't help it.

     
  • gecroix posted at 2:48 pm on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    gecroix Posts: 3000

    Robert Buckner I was up at 3:30 am and taking a short break between disasters when I let my crankiness overide my comprehension with that one.
    Mea goofduppa...
    My apologies.

     
  • Robert Buckner posted at 1:01 pm on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    Robert Buckner Posts: 731

    gecroix, my 7:53am post was the first on this thread so it doesn't apply to me this time. I'll let everybody else on here hash it out.[smile]

     
  • bvresident posted at 12:50 pm on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    bvresident Posts: 1323

    There is obviously no low this president and his administration won't stoop to when it comes to using government employees-IRS, Dept. of Justice, Park Service, TSA, etc.-to demonstrate his Chicago-thug type of governing.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/park-police_762277.html

    The Park Service should be disbanded and volunteers enlisted to staff our parks. This is another out-of-control federal law enforcement agency.

     
  • bvresident posted at 12:02 pm on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    bvresident Posts: 1323

    Another definition of recklessness and disregard for the well-being of this country by continuing to lie to the public about our true fiscal situation.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/us-adds-two-times-more-debt-economic-output-last-2-years_762311.html

     
  • kevjlang posted at 12:01 pm on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3010

    Actually, it was voted on by the house. Something like 414-0 to reject it. Reid tried to put another one through the senate, but the senate rejected it something like 99-0.

    Regardless how we want to interpret the actions of the House and Senate this FY, the fact remains that neither house intends to produce an initial draft of budget legislation that has any chance of passing the other. From that point forward, they're supposed to fashion up a conference committee to draft up a bill they believe can pass each house.

    Until a bill makes it through both houses and is put on the President's desk, both the House and Senate are failing. No gold stars for just putting some jibberish onto their homework paper. No medals for just showing up. There needs to be a credible attempt at coming up with a workable solution. Neither has done that.

     
  • bvresident posted at 11:17 am on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    bvresident Posts: 1323

    servitude1, under Clinton but with a Republican House and Senate, they worked together to enact the most significant welfare reform in history. Yet under your current president, almost every bit of that reform has been dismantled and entitlement payments have soared. Your bloviating nonsense about the Republicans clinging to the old ways is the same tired excuse used by the left to justify their unabashed efforts to turn our democracy into socialism.

    What the Tea Party recognizes is that this president truly wants to "fundamentally change this country" which has been proven to mean a society totally reliant on the largesse of the federal government. You may believe that's "helping someone" but it's taking away any incentive to take personal responsibility for changing their own situation.

    This country doesn't need a "Messiah" in the White House, we need elected representatives who will recognize they must stand up to this hateful, divisive, mean-spirited, arrogant, self-serving community organizer president.

     
  • gecroix posted at 8:46 am on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    gecroix Posts: 3000

    "Actually, the way I see it, those posting on this thread are no different than our useless elected folks in DC. Nobody here has an opinion that will change regardless of the attempt by those with opposite views. At least you weren't elected to your positions and aren't wasting our tax dollars while just sitting around pointing fingers."
    Does that analytical wizardry include you, too?

     
  • sverige1 posted at 8:35 am on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3623

    Response to bvresident posted at 6:27 am on Wed, Oct 9, 2013:

    bvresident - The "war on poverty" executed from the 60s, and its tenets have been further enhanced by every President since. As the saying goes, "there's no going back".

    Much of your arguments actually answer themselves. We're not the same country we were in the 50s/60s. As the vestiges of old republicans cling to the old ways, the rest of us are suffering.

    Even the teapartiers are aware that the old ways don't work. As I've mentioned before, the average young entry-level worker who has done everything right to keep from being a "freeloader"....even he/she needs assistance.

    He's a thought: If you have had a son, haven't you helped him get on his feet? As an individual parent, you would do so. Collectively, our country has a big problem in regard to health care....period. A solution is necessary. That doesn't involve closing the government. That is selfish and un-christian.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 8:17 am on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3623

    Well, RobertBucksner -
    A few minor misspelled screennames is a bit nebulous in light of the subject matters being discussed at hand.

    At an attempt not at humor, but as an example of what our public officials should be doing - making compromise. I propose that if bvresident stops spelling my screename "servitude1", then I will carefully spell everyone's screennames.

    This is a "start", and a type of compromise that, again, our national leaders should begin making.

    Now, even more to the matter at hand. When one grows as an individual, he/she must put aside past sins, forgive those who trespass, and look for solutions. Since Obama and the Senate are in the majority, it is up to the slight majority conservatives in the House to do their forgiving and start compromising. It's a combination of psychology and GOV 101.

    The whole nation (not just the "liberals") are waiting.

     
  • bvresident posted at 7:58 am on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    bvresident Posts: 1323

    Recklessness? Here's recklessness.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/327363-reid-wants-1t-debt-hike-to-end-of-2014

     
  • bvresident posted at 7:56 am on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    bvresident Posts: 1323

    The president cuts the funding-that was already voted on and approved-for the death gratuity for our fallen soldiers but he ensures that his liberal media get their gratuity.

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/10/08/government-gives-445-million-to-corporation-for-public-broadcasting-on-first/

     
  • Robert Buckner posted at 7:53 am on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    Robert Buckner Posts: 731

    Actually, the way I see it, those posting on this thread are no different than our useless elected folks in DC. Nobody here has an opinion that will change regardless of the attempt by those with opposite views. At least you weren't elected to your positions and aren't wasting our tax dollars while just sitting around pointing fingers. Both political parties are a disgrace to our country.
    Off my ranting now while I sit back and watch Lar's childish misspelling of everyone's screen names in his attempt at humor.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 7:48 am on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 2579

    I have seen your childish attempts to play word games with my name. I forgive you. I just consider the source. But I have taught Junior High before and this even beneath them!

     
  • bvresident posted at 7:40 am on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    bvresident Posts: 1323

    servitude1, you are a great liberal and government troll. No one in their right minds believes it's the GOP who's insisting on having it their way. The "One" has repeatedly stated publicly that he won't negotiate with the Republicans. It's time to let your president take us to the place that he's been trying to get us to since he was elected-the default of our economy.

    When there's no money to pay entitlements we will finally begin the long process to reclaiming the values this country was built on. The GOP needs to stand strong and let the consequences of Hussein's actions be his legacy.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 7:17 am on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3623

    Well, carlosponge -

    You can pray for all of those folks who are reckless, and pray for angry BOvresident.

    I do like how you kept with the theme of this thread - recklessness. I shall take a psychological/sociological point of view. Human nature, when at the "id" stage, is to insist on having one's way at all times. Our shrill conservatives are doing just that.

    It's not unlike a small child at a grocery store whose mom won't let him have the Cocoa Puffs cereal, and the gummy bears, and won't let him go to Chuck E Cheese. The repubs "are like video game-loving homeowners who won't pay their mortgage until their lender buys them a new car and an X-Box".

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/10/08/obama_s_shutdown_analogies_a_complete_list_of_the_analogies_president_obama.html

    WENDY DAVIS for GOVERNOR - - "Blue Texas, True Texas"

     
  • kevjlang posted at 7:06 am on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3010

    Technically, he has nothing to negotiate on, at least until the House and Senate negotiate with each other. Until they can become one voice, there's not much we could expect the president to do. He can't make the House and Senate agree.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 7:00 am on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3010

    I was only referring to the ones responsible for getting a budget to the president's desk. I omitted the VP, since he does nothing more than cast a deciding vote in the Senate. Neither the President nor Vice President have legislative roles. You can spin the relative powers all you want, but the Constitution is quite clear that a bill must pass both houses and receive the president's signature. Neither of the three is obligated to just rubber stamp anything that either of the others wants to spit out.

    Because the senate requires a higher minimum age, and the presidency even higher, it can also be argued that the senate's role is to keep those young fellows from doing stupid things. So, are you saying that just because there are more of them, that representatives are the wiser statesmen? The Constitution has nothing to do with the relative governmental standings of the President relative to state Governors. The states are free to organize their governments as they choose. We could be a virtual anarchy or kingdom here in Texas if we saw fit.

     
  • bvresident posted at 6:29 am on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    bvresident Posts: 1323

    Like he said, he's willing to negotiate as long as the Republicans don't bring any conditions of negotiation to the table. The most divisive, hateful, arrogant president in our history.

     
  • bvresident posted at 6:27 am on Wed, Oct 9, 2013.

    bvresident Posts: 1323

    servitude1 doesn't want to acknowledge that the "war on poverty" since the 60's has cost us THREE TIMES what the combined costs have been for every war since the Civil War. And we have more people and a higher percentage of our population in poverty than at any time in history. Amazing work by the democrat party.

     
  • IHOG posted at 11:50 pm on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    The actual elected number in Federal government is 537. Republicans hold a majority of those positions.
    The constitution gave the 435 representives of the people in the House more power than the President and Senate combined. Presidents were intended to have power equal to state Governors.
    Senators were intended to be spokesmen for their states, not hacks of a political party.

     
  • IHOG posted at 11:17 pm on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    Severige1

    Supporting the military costs less than being invaded. Also costs less than paying people to not work, or paying farmers to not farm.

     
  • IHOG posted at 11:13 pm on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    The real unemployment rate for all citizens is 11.8 %.
    For BHO's most loyal voters it's over 26 %.
    In 2007 the IRS reported 151 million tax returns. For 2013 there were 139 million. 12 million fewer Americans with taxable income. Some of those are people with "Obama Jobs" second or third jobs because of Obamacare reducing their work hours to less than 30 hours a week.

     
  • IHOG posted at 11:05 pm on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    Well said BV. Rush wouldn't call you a uninformed voter.

     
  • IHOG posted at 11:02 pm on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    Most of the debt is spending on "entitlement programs". Taking from producers and giving to takers. Debt is the only service(?) the takers provide.
    The military has served and died honestly to keep the U.S. safe. You are safe aren't you. Except from our socialist government.

     
  • IHOG posted at 10:52 pm on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    Actually what the Senate sent to the House was invalid.
    The Senate can't produce budget bills. Only the house can.
    House budget bills go to the Senate for approval, amendment or rejection. Any change by the Senate sends the bill back to the House. No other process is valid.
    Harry Reid didn't let the Senate debate, amend, reject or vote on the House budget bills.
    He shut down 17 % of our government because he wanted to use continuing resolutions again because they automatically increase spending.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 9:33 pm on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 2579

    What's reckless is opening the National Mall in Washington, DC for an amnesty rally while barricading the World War II monument to the aging veterans who fought in that war. What's reckless is barricading a state highway so people cannot get close enough to Mount Rushmore while keeping open President Obama's favorite golf course at Andrews Air Base. What's reckless is Harry Reid asking why he would want to help a child with cancer. What's reckless is not allowing furloughed chaplains to say mass or perform baptisms. What's reckless is trying to shut down Mt. Vernon which is privately operated. What's reckless is shutting down the D-Day Memorial in Normandy, France. What's reckless is shutting down 24 military cemeteries. What's reckless is shutting down over 100 privately managed parks. What's reckless is having a president who REFUSES to negotiate. I could go on and on.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 4:50 pm on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 2579

    You consider this an improvement in economy? The numbers have been fixed. The unemployment rate is actually much higher than reported. Check the total number of people considered employable. Unless we've had a massive exodus from this country it cannot have dropped that much since 2008.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 2:22 pm on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3010

    What's reckless is that we have 535 people in Washington, DC that have a key responsibility each year to hammer out a budget agreement that the president will sign, or that can override a veto. Those 535 all seem to be more closely tied to some sort of political ideal or general diva persona that they neglect the realities of what their job is. While Republicans posess a simple majority of those 535 jobs, and Conservative Republicans may be the single largest group overall, they don't constitute the majority overall.

    It may be easy to blame the conservatives for this mess, but I think there are plenty of others that are behaving much the same way. Someway, somehow, we need to find a page that can hold at least 218 Representatives and 51 Senators and one President.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 2:07 pm on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3010

    Actually, this year (for a change), the Senate did send an amended budget back to the House, where it died.

     
  • gecroix posted at 1:02 pm on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    gecroix Posts: 3000

    Never resorted to such tactics?
    How can anyone take such an absurd statement as the starting point of anything even approaching a dialogue. A fit of raucus laughter, yes, but serious discussion point...no.
    The point of making a point is that it be factual, not talking points fantasy.
    Question: These 'expensive wars'. Reckon why they were not ended on Jan. 22, 2009, by the new President, who so vehemently opposed them as a then senator?
    Gets a pass for that, huh?
    I suggest a viewing of the Al Gore climate fiction 'An Inconvenient Truth', to get in the mood for being poured back into the DNC fantasy bottle.
    Again.

     
  • miceal o'laochdha posted at 12:19 pm on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    miceal o'laochdha Posts: 540

    What has always struck me as remarkable irony, with regard to Barack Obama's career is that, while he is indeed equally, black and white (unlike nearly all people of color in this country), it has been to his advantage to emphasize the black bloodline over the white one.

    For most of American history, it would have been more sensible to for a bi-racial man to try and emphasize his "whiteness".

    I think the lesson of Barack Obama is clear: in today's society, a man (probably woman too) is at an advantage if he is perceived as a black man, rather than a white man. That is a pretty significant change of fortune for everyone.

     
  • IHOG posted at 11:58 am on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    Iraq was approved by both parties, with Clinton's urging, approved by the UN and 39 coalition countries.
    Iraq cost $1 trillion, liberated the country from a brutal dictator who was killing more people each year than the total deaths of the war.
    BHO"s $1 trillion stimulus was used by a Chicago thug and community organizer to reward his friends and supporters. The only thing stimulated was donations to his re election campaign.

    17 % of our government ( non essential services) are closed because Harry Reid refused to let the Senate debate, amend or vote on the spending bills Republicans sent to the Senate back in the spring. He prefered Continuing Resolutions because they offer automatic spending increases.
    If the senate had done it's constitutional duty 17 % of government could not have been closed.
    If the Debt limit is not raised the same 17 % of government will remain closed. There will be no default because debt service is the first requirement of the Constitution. Funding National defense is second. Congress and White House are third.
    BHO can't legally refuse to fund debt service or military before Congress or White House.

     
  • bvresident posted at 10:10 am on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    bvresident Posts: 1323

    radovan, those are standard talking points for the left when the facts don't back up what they're saying. You don't have to take me seriously because I certainly don't take people like you or Marion seriously. As much of our tax dollars that were wasted on the stimulus it would seem the economy would be booming rather than the massive increase in disability and unemployment benefits and the 90% of jobs being created in the last year that were part-time.

    This country will never get on the right track as long as this entitlement mentality is encouraged rather than a sense of self-respect and independence. Your statement that a previous administration "lavished spending on the military" shows more anger and hatred than anything I've ever said on this forum. But after listening to the liberal hero Bill Maher state that our WWII veterans may have been the greatest generation but not the brightest generation, I have some insight into who you listen to.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 9:51 am on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3623

    Response to bvresident posted at 9:08 am on Tue, Oct 8, 2013:

    It is what it is, BOvresident. The exorbitant military spending doesn't gel with the tenets of fiscal conservatism. Link -

    http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/american_prosperity_consensus/2013/10/american_prosperity_consensus_is_excessive_defense_spending_the_most_important.html

     
  • radovan posted at 9:44 am on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    radovan Posts: 120

    like it or not bvresident, the economy has been improving (slower than we would like). Happy to discuss issues, but it is really difficult to take anything you say seriously because you sound so angry and hateful most of the time.

     
  • bvresident posted at 9:08 am on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    bvresident Posts: 1323

    Lavish the military? Really Radovan? This is representative of the disgust the left has for our armed forces and what they've done to protect the interests of this country.

    I guess the $1 TRILLION stimulus boondoggle was Bush's fault also?

     
  • radovan posted at 8:29 am on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    radovan Posts: 120

    well said Marion. Failing to look at or admit that the money has already been spent in the costly wars accounts for most of the debt. The ACA in the early implementation has already shown success through the PCIP initiative and the Cobra assistance. Through those 2 pieces alone, many remained or were able to buy insurance while undergoing cancer treatment and other catastrophic illnesses. Unfortunately previous decisions to lavish the military have taken its toll.

     
  • bvresident posted at 7:48 am on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    bvresident Posts: 1323

    More evidence of what obamacare is doing. I know the dems don't care because they can't let their black president look like a failure-even if he is. So they will take the country down in flames rather than admit what they're doing is flawed. If this president and his policies and obamacare are so good for this country, why is the unemployment rate still almost 8% and almost double that for blacks? Why were 90% of the jobs created this year part-time jobs? Why is the middle class in this country in far worse shape than they were five years ago under George Bush? Even Stevie Wonder could see what the problem is.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/2013/1007/Beyond-Obamacare-glitches-some-consumers-face-dramatically-higher-rates-video

     
  • bvresident posted at 7:24 am on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    bvresident Posts: 1323

    This is the shrill cry of the liberal twitwiller. Marion, it's not about the color of his skin but rather how thin it is. You said that Democrats have never "resorted to such tactics". Now for the truth.

    In the 1976 shutdown, dems controlled both houses.
    In the three 1977 shutdowns, dems controlled both houses and we had a dem President
    In the 1978 and 1979 shutdowns, dems controlled both houses under the same dem President.
    In the 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, and 1986 shutdowns the dems controlled both houses.
    In the 1987 and 1990 shutdowns the dems controlled the House.

    This is a tried-and-true tactic of the left, throw everything against the wall and see if anything sticks.

    obamacare is a mess. It was created by one party and its president without the input from the Republicans and now it's become something the dems can't allow to fail no matter what it does to our economy or the middle-class of this country.

    obama and the dems have spent us into oblivion with no end in sight to the reckless expenditures on entitlements and the growth of government. What we know from your ridiculous column is that democrats care less about helping the disadvantaged and more about creating a society dependent on the federal government for every want and need.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 7:02 am on Tue, Oct 8, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 2579

    "The Democrats, whenever they controlled the House and disapproved of Republican-sponsored legislation, never resorted to such tactics."

    Perhaps because this petulant president refuses to compromise, drastic measures are needed. EVERY president has compromised except Barack Hussein Obama. The House has lowered their demands to asking it be delayed and that it apply to ALL the people, exercising the "Equal Protection Under the the Laws" clause of the United States Constitution. The exemptions smack of elitism.
    And it has nothing to do with President Obama being half Black. I grow weary of people who play the "Race Card" when there is no basis of truth, logic or reason behind it.

    The House has passed bills to open the national parks, fund the VA, pay for children's cancer, etc. Eight bills sit on Harry Reid's desk. The President's Office has ordered that Americans be made as miserable as possible, barricading the World War II Memorial, blocking a state highway leading to Mt Rushmore, and so on. National Park Service officials even blocked parking lots to George Washington’s Mt. Vernon Estate. There’s just one problem. The historic site is privately owned and funded!