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September 17, 2014

Letters to the Editor for Wednesday, Nov. 27, 2013

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  • kevjlang posted at 1:52 am on Wed, Dec 4, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 2887

    Oh, there are plenty of conservative interests feasting on the poverty business. Liberals aren't the only ones taking opportunities to draw steady government contract dollars.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 10:05 pm on Tue, Dec 3, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3374

    Response to carlosrponce posted at 9:32 pm on Tue, Dec 3, 2013:

    Well, ponce -
    In theory it would be great to have our country not unlike, let's say, Sweden, where poverty is virtually non-existent.

    However, what "drives" the republicans is the fear factor of having the minority sector be in power. Just look at how our President has been scrutinized since 2008. It's easy for us to say that one can "pull oneself from his/her bootstraps". But, how can a motivated young person with thousands of $ of college debt yet to pay getting his "pulling up by bootstraps" on? We have a few million in this country who have college degrees but with very dim prospects in attaining the American dream. Should THOSE folks "simply disappear"?

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 9:32 pm on Tue, Dec 3, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 2227

    sverige says "The 'conservative folk' would gladly love to see the poor and needy simply disappear. " How very true! And if we had our way these downtrodden would be helped out of the lower class so that government help is no longer needed. As Ronald Reagan put it They would be pulled up by their "bootstraps". On the other hand, the Liberal Progressive Democrats NEED a subservient lower class dependent on government aid so that they can maintain their power and control. In fact they want all of us to be under government control.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 10:19 am on Sun, Dec 1, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 2887

    I HOPE that all sides want to see the end of poverty in this country. I think the big separation is with regards to the population we should be trying to help. The conservatives seem willing to wring their hands of those that seem to be poor by choice, while the liberals seem more willing to fight more for them than for the ones that are poor due to difficult circumstances. Liberals seem to favor unconditional aid for the poor, while the conservatives would like to limit the unconditional aid solely to the aged, and physically and mentally disabled.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 11:36 pm on Sat, Nov 30, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3374

    Response to TrebleClef posted at 9:35 am on Wed, Nov 27, 2013:

    Well, TrebleClef...I've said many times. The "conservative folk" would gladly love to see the poor and needy (and the struggling/honest middle class) simply disappear. Out of sight, out of mind, like they say.

    What can we expect, though? Many of these folks tout their hero as a "president" some 30 some-odd years ago who ignored the AIDs epidemic, and alienated two of his own children.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 12:42 pm on Fri, Nov 29, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 2887

    I agree that regardless of who fails to grasp the difference between rule and repression needs to be booted. The problem is that 51% of our fellow citizens love watching politics imitate reality TV.

     
  • gecroix posted at 5:49 pm on Thu, Nov 28, 2013.

    gecroix Posts: 3000

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.'
    C.S. Lewis

     
  • gecroix posted at 5:32 pm on Thu, Nov 28, 2013.

    gecroix Posts: 3000

    Forgot my 'difference'...Oh, well. I'm thankful I remembered the rest...
    It would not occur to me to try to run roughshod over or badmouth people I was supposed to be working with, then damn them for not enjoying my petulance.
    But, I don't belive that the end always justifies the means, or that I am above the others in the room, or that my way is the only way to do things, and only thing worthy of doing.
    So, no. If the 'majority ruler' was someone I voted for who turned out to be an incompetent, , narcissistic, arrogant ass with a mywayhighway complex, I'd be just as unhappy about that as I am the clowns we have now.
    I also know the difference between repression and rule, and that the latter is what we were founded on, and the former is where we're at now.
    I'm thankful that's still recognized by thepeople who care to observe and analyze honestly.
    The rest, are how we got into this mess in the first place, Then decided to do the same thing one more time, hoping for a different outcome.
    Happy Thanksgiving.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 1:16 pm on Thu, Nov 28, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 2887

    Cross-state sales of insurance would wreak havoc with state insurance commissions. Do you really want a national insurance commission? What we've had has been about 50 state governments with no guts to work on fixes to the runaway costs of medical care. Since when has Medicaid expansion been favored by conservatives? Perry could do that anytime he wants.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 1:05 pm on Thu, Nov 28, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 2887

    Sometimes the difference is a matter of a change of perspective or a matter of opinion. I'm sure there are some that would argue that what you may call majority repression would be called majority rule if your side were in the majority and doing some of the same types of things.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 11:31 am on Thu, Nov 28, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 2227

    Obamacare was not necessary. For those who can afford it there's regular health insurance. For those who cannot there's Medicaid. For the elderly there's Medicare. Again I repeat, most of those uninsured CHOSE not to buy. I thought you Liberals believed were Pro-CHOICE.
    There is a need to control health costs. It is achieved through Tort reform. It is also achieved through interstate competition, something the Dems don't want - maybe because its their cookie jar.
    The only one reason for Obamacare or ACA - more government control of our lives. They've only just begun.

     
  • gecroix posted at 9:56 am on Thu, Nov 28, 2013.

    gecroix Posts: 3000

    There is a between majority rule, and majority repression.
    It's pretty much what led to the first American Revolution.

     
  • TikiOwl posted at 8:56 am on Thu, Nov 28, 2013.

    TikiOwl Posts: 67

    You need to look a little farther than Galveston County or even Texas. The majority of the country is quite a bit different than the majority in Texas...but guess majority rules only counts when Conservatives are elected.

     
  • TikiOwl posted at 8:52 am on Thu, Nov 28, 2013.

    TikiOwl Posts: 67

    Medicare is paid for by the young also. Are you willing to give up Medicare for yourself or your parents?

     
  • kevjlang posted at 5:46 pm on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 2887

    I think the liberals might call them LINOs. Everyone else calls them Liberals.

    [beam][beam][beam]

     
  • Jbgood posted at 5:34 pm on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 1955

    Ahhhhhh Man, how did yall get a hold of the Eleventh Law of JBGism?

    11) Dogs bark, and bite, Birds chirp, and build nests, and Politicians, lie, and deceive!!![whistling]

     
  • gecroix posted at 3:56 pm on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    gecroix Posts: 3000

    In the U.S. Senate 29 of 50 Democrats voted for the Iraq war resolution.
    In the U.S. House 82 of 208 Democrats voted for the Iraq war resolution.
    Most notable among the Dem. Senators voting Yea were such well-known names as:
    Sens. Boxer, Byrd, Corzine, Durbin, Feingold, Kennedy (Ted), Leahy, and Levin.
    On the House side:
    Reps. Waxman, Harman, Markey, Hoyer, Murtha, Kennedy (Patrick), and Frost.
    You might start a fight if you told any one of them they are not 'true liberals'...
    AND if you called any of them 'liars' for their belief in WMD, et al, at the time...

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 3:51 pm on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 2227

    American Intelligence reporting WMD in Iraq is suspect. But when Israeli Intelligence reported the same then I believed. Israeli Intelligence is considered the best source. What happened to the WMD? There were reports of Russian made trucks transporting them to Syria and Lebanon. Reporting this to the populace would have caused some to call for the expansion of our mission in the Middle East to include these countries as well as Iraq - something GWB was not willing to do.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 2:38 pm on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 2887

    A lot of the core of the CIA, State Dept, and Defense Dept at the time of GWB had been there through many iterations of administrations. People believe it to be true because Saddam Hussein wanted no only his people, but the outside world to believe he had those weapons. His was not a benevolent regime. He wasn't going to keep things in check and at bay if everyone thought he just had stockpiles of Slim Jims, Snickers, and Candy Canes.

    No one knew any different, and no one had the access to verify anything different. No one really knew he had them, how he would have got them, or how he would have developed them, but in the absence of proof he didn't have them, the safe assumption was that he did. That appears to have been the line of reasoning of GHWB, WJC, and GWB.

    Of course, WMD was not the only reason, or probably not even the key reason, for the war recommendation. It was a convenient rallying point, but there were plenty of other reasons that Saddam needed to go. Despite the fact that he didn't have the huge stockpiles of chemical, biological, and other nasty weapons, few would say that Iraq and the region need him back.

    Bush didn't make the mistake of believing liberals. He made the mistake of believing widely held theories that had been in place for well over a decade before he took office. The true liberals weren't telling Bush to go to war. They were telling him to avoid it.

     
  • gecroix posted at 12:28 pm on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    gecroix Posts: 3000

    True. Among politicians, there are liars, and there are LIARS.
    I believe Mr. Hensley (any kin to Joe, by the way?) and subsequent supporters was reminding us all of the exceptional talent for prevarication exhibited by our current President, topped of with an exceptional lack of talent for problem solving, as opposed to problem creating.
    Such genius should not go unheralded.
    In fact, it's Nobel Prize level...[beam][beam][beam]
    Normally, one can avoid being stuck by cactus by choosing to not go where any of it is. But, when forced to walk through a cactus bed under penalty of law.... ouch...[sad]

     
  • miceal o'laochdha posted at 12:11 pm on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    miceal o'laochdha Posts: 510

    It is difficult to see the point in each of us specifying which different politicians we consider to be liars.

    Our personal likes and dislikes have little affect on the basic equation whereby if they are a politician they are a liar. it is that simple. While not all liars are politicians, nonetheless, all politicians are most assuredly liars. Local, State, Federal; all the same. It is similar to the relationship between cacti and succulents.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 12:02 pm on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 2227

    How about.........[wink][wink][wink]. May God Bless you , Have a Blessed Thanksgiving and Happy Chanukah!

     
  • Jbgood posted at 11:54 am on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 1955

    Mr. Ponce. Why must I calm down? I'm calm and I was calm when I responded to your remark. You made a statement and I had no way of knowing you were being facetious or for real,...Just like you had no way of knowing if I was calm or not,...when I posted.
    -
    So you are saying you were just joking,...fine by me. I'm a reasonable man,...though some might call me far worse things than that,..but oh ..well. I guess it would be a good deal if GDN would create a little "facial" expression, or symbol which one could use to let others know they are just "playing!"
    -

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 11:26 am on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 2227

    Jbgood, calm down, I was being facetious when I said shame on Daddy Bush. And I voted for him too!

     
  • IHOG posted at 11:07 am on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    Island Runner?

    The real lyers were Clinton, Gore, Pelosi, Ried, Biden, Obama et all, who said Iraq had WMD's until after they voted to use force against Saddam.
    Bush made the mistake of believing liberals.

     
  • gecroix posted at 10:56 am on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    gecroix Posts: 3000

    Good point.
    Real leaders know how and when to make a course correction, rather than keep forging ahead when conditions have changed, and the original plan has gone to crap.
    Bush 41 has been demonized for years for abandoning his no new taxes pledge, when in the contect of the events of the time it was the right thing to do.
    A President is supposed to represent ALL of the people, not just his base. Something that has been forgotten by the current one.
    Fire Station #3 in TC has a sign up out front that says "Only a fool never changes his mind." True.
    The nation would be a lot better off if #44 would change his... [wink]

     
  • IHOG posted at 10:51 am on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    Dick Hensley

    You noticed?
    BHO is the biggest liar or the most inept president in U.S. history.
    I don't agree. I think he is both.
    I think Nancy pelosi messed with the 2008 primary results, giving BHO all the super deligates, to get a dunce in the presidency that would be her "house boy".
    The good news is what they [ he and she] have done could be the end of liberalism for many years.

    The NRA and Tea Party joined forces. Libartariens are ready to join them.
    LA Raza is attacking Tea Party Latinos. The NAACP is waging war on Tea Party Blacks. Moderates are becoming Independents. Independents are becoming Republicans.
    The dividing line between left and right is moving in favor of the right.

     
  • gecroix posted at 10:46 am on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    gecroix Posts: 3000

    Are all those uninsured U.S. citizens?
    Is having insurance a guarantee that you will have medical care, or be able to afford your nice new higher deductible and copays? Or your tax for not having any?
    Well, I suppose it doesn't matter to everybody...
    And, when all is said and done, and just about everybody's health care situation has become as screwed up as Hogan's goat, the CBO says there will STILL be 30 million uninsured.
    Oddly, that's the same number the President and the others in his Party tossed out for two years as the reason WHY we had to have an 'overhhaul'. Coincidence?
    Redistribution doesn't begin with an 'R'.
    It begins with a lie.
    It's no small feat to outperform Nixon in that department, but credit must be given where due, and it's most certainly due now.

     
  • Jbgood posted at 10:27 am on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 1955

    Shame on Daddy Bush Mr Ponce? Shame on him for what, acting sensable? It is not a shame to realize that everything is not going to go your way ALL the time, sir. I think this nation has witnessed what the word GRIDLOCK really means from the present day politicians we now have operating on our behalf.
    Notice I said nothing about them "SERVING" on our behalf. I don't call what is going on now by politicians .....SERVING THE PUBLIC. BTW I voted for Daddy Bush! [wink]

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 10:25 am on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 2227

    It's a matter of choice. The majority of the "uninsured" are young adults. I remember that at that age I felt I had no need of health insurance. In fact I did not get health insurance until my mid forties when I felt the need. So you want to FORCE young people to acquire insurance or pay the penalty. Your opinion but it's not the majority. And who's the genius who decided that health care would be financed by having the young healthy people pay for it then allowing young adults to be kept on their parents' policy until age 26? And who decided that men need a maternity care rider in their policy? Not much intelligence there! The poor are already cared for through Medicaid. "God bless you, Texas! And keep you brave and strong,
    That you may grow in power and worth, Throughout the ages long."

     
  • TrebleClef posted at 9:35 am on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    TrebleClef Posts: 302

    The attitude of Mr. Ponce's willful neglect has lead to this 'great state' having (almost) the most uninsured people in the nation. And he brags about it! Despite what you might want to believe or have happen, the Health Care Affordability Act is no where near being on its last breath.

     
  • gecroix posted at 9:11 am on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    gecroix Posts: 3000

    Either, or?
    No.
    Both.
    Richard Nixon and Jethro Bodine all rolled into one.
    imho

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 8:46 am on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 2227

    You would say President Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction. You will find that President Clinton and VP Al Gore also believed that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction- look it up in the GDN archives 1993-2001. And Daddy Bush did not keep his promise about taxes. Rather than shut down government he did sign the legislation to increase taxes in the Bill the Democratic Congress presented him. Shame on him!

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 8:40 am on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    carlosrponce Posts: 2227

    Be thankful you live in the Great State of Texas - a state that did not buy into Obama's promises hook, line and sinker like the rest of the nation in either election. As to whether he is a liar or inept, I tend to believe he is inept. BO is an academician who surrounds himself with toadies who are also academicians. This administration proves that those liberal theories don't work. Notice the difference when he is speaking from a script and he is speaking off the cuff. His script promises alot , accepts no responsibility for failure and blames the opposition for those failures. A warning to all Texans: There are a lot of carpetbaggers moving into our state because Texas is prosperous but they want to instill their liberal/progressive ideas into our state. Like their historic counterparts, there are also local scalawags who want to turn this state blue. Blue is synonymous with sad. Note that Santa wears RED. For Texas to remain prosperous we should keep our Conservative ideals.

     
  • Island Runner posted at 8:21 am on Wed, Nov 27, 2013.

    Island Runner Posts: 401

    Were you paying attention when Reagan and Bush were president. I think they would top Obama any day for the lie award.