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January 25, 2015

Forget about calling your housing commissioner

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  • Matt Coulson posted at 8:29 pm on Tue, Apr 15, 2014.

    Matt Coulson Posts: 140

    I think we already have far more than our fair share of public housing.but if we add even one more unit, it should be in an existing rental. The landlord must keep up a federal standard and the money is put into the island economy.

  • Jarvo posted at 7:40 pm on Tue, Apr 15, 2014.

    Jarvo Posts: 417

    You are not scaring us heber

  • Jake Buckner posted at 11:32 am on Tue, Apr 15, 2014.

    Jake Buckner Posts: 1915

    Personally, I'm in favor of NO rebuild of any sort, whether mixed-income or scattered sites. NONE.

    I feel that concentrating poverty breeds crime, so I don't like the idea of building the mixed-income sites.

    I believe placing scattered sites all over the Island ruins otherwise delightful and high-value neighborhoods, so I don't like that either.

    No racism here, just don't see a need to add more public housing to an already run-down town. I consider my view to be practical, economical, and selfish, but not racist.

  • Matt Coulson posted at 8:02 am on Tue, Apr 15, 2014.

    Matt Coulson Posts: 140

    Pro public housing plan people have arguments that only consider how best to manage the rebuild that we must do according to the state and the Feds. Anti public housing people argue that the idea of concentrated housing is racist, inhumane and disrespectful. Who's position is selfish and who's is ideological? Social justice is not something to be given up on because the powers that be say your wrong.i think its great that we are talking about scattered sites and I love that the transparent racists are quaking in their boots at the thought of these folks living next door. A robust section 8 program is the right thing for Galveston, but there were people who wanted to get rich off this rebuild and others that did not want to loose their power base. They do not care about the people. They use them like a commodity for their own purpose's. Heber uses all of his "practical" arguments to sooth his soul, but some of us are standing on principal. Government barracks to house your underpaid workforce is a very dark idea.

  • Partner posted at 6:01 pm on Mon, Apr 14, 2014.

    Partner Posts: 186

    I really don’t understand this at all. The GLO has no responsibility because, as the GCDN noted a few weeks back, they claim it’s the GHA housing plan, not theirs. Yet the GHA has no responsibility because the GLO took it away? On top of that, HUD has endorsed the plan so it could qualify for Tax credits to underwrite the cost but HUD has never approved the plan formally?

    If the judge has any sense at all, he will start to get the feeling that this is all smoke or at least one of the defendants is smoking bath salts and try the case on the merits of the plan against AFFH law which—from what I can see—is one other deep foggy bottom.

  • Jake Buckner posted at 12:06 pm on Mon, Apr 14, 2014.

    Jake Buckner Posts: 1915

    I wonder where the scattered sites would be built? As I understand it, they must be built; existing buildings don't qualify as suitable.

    So, where? West End? LOTS of room there! Empty spaces north of Broadway? Pelican Island? Beachtown, LOL! Plenty of lots available there, and the ocean breeze is great! Evia is another area with a bunch of lots available. How about scraping blighted properties in San Jacinto and putting some units there? How about the Fort Crockett barracks property -- excellent view of the Gulf! Cedar Lawn, Colony Park and Denver Court are built out and well-maintained, so no room there. But the East End Historical District has plenty of blighted properties that could be scraped to make room. Same for the Silk Stocking Historical District. Even the Strand Historical District has room.

    With over 500 units to work with, it would be possible to ruin almost every neighborhood in G-Town.

    Here's my prediction: When all is said and done, the City and its citizens WILL have a say in where the housing is built.

  • TrebleClef posted at 10:55 am on Mon, Apr 14, 2014.

    TrebleClef Posts: 339

    Actually Mr. Papous, that is not entirely correct. The COG could have had lots of input into the process, and did. But through some on city council, the decision was to try and dictate rather than negotiate. You have no input because you lost that unnecessary battle.

  • t14wagner posted at 10:46 am on Mon, Apr 14, 2014.

    t14wagner Posts: 26

    "Local control" of scattered sites is truly a moot point until the courts render a decision on fair housing standards, unless the aim is to present hypotheticals in an attempt to sway public opinion.

    Should the courts find current plans violate fair housing standards, as Heber contends here, subsequent actions will become clear, albeit in a deliberate, step-by-step process. The existing housing plan is the culmination of misguided judgments/decisions that in-time, can only be rectified, one step at a time.

    If there's genuine concern with the possibility of increasing scattered sites throughout Galveston, perhaps the most pressing editorial should highlight the issues emphasized by Stanley Lowe, former GHA Executive Director -- an "insider's perspective" of the perils of increasing scattered sites (see Heber’s 11Apr2014 Editorial:


    But, again, only if there's general concern....

  • npappous posted at 10:20 am on Mon, Apr 14, 2014.

    npappous Posts: 429

    I am at a loss as to why this is considered newsworthy.

    Galveston had no say in the mixed-income developments. That was dictated to us.

    Why should we expect a role in the scattered sites?

  • TrebleClef posted at 10:12 am on Mon, Apr 14, 2014.

    TrebleClef Posts: 339

    There now Heber, you went and ruined it; was wondering how long it would take for some to figure this one out. Those in these comment sections who think it is a good idea to rebuild all public housing on scattered sites might now think twice. Or not.

  • miceal o'laochdha posted at 10:03 am on Mon, Apr 14, 2014.

    miceal o'laochdha Posts: 587

    Another fine example of the increasingly Totalitarian society in which we live. Where a theoretically Beneficent Dictatorship creeps a bit more each day into the State level of government by means of money, borrowed from China and dangled under the nose of state level demagogues. And that dictator is not a Republican or a Democratic elected administration really; it is the silent Colossus of the bureaucracy itself; living on from one administration to the next and creeping ever-forward like a glacier. Local officials are the last ones to jump on the Big Brother Bus but, they are queuing up.

    OK, that was my Libertarian relief valve going off. Sorry.