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October 26, 2014

Weapons stolen from officer's car; bag dumped in judge's driveway

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  • gecroix posted at 11:14 pm on Wed, May 1, 2013.

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    Only rarely?
    I suspect you are right, because even a non-LE like myself would scarcely miss one other than the personal flagellation associated with knowing some low life thief had mine. Still, support for our troops and first responders and law enforcement should amount to more, or at least the well meaning and genuine offering of more, than just blog lip service.
    I salute you for that.
    I've never been in law enforcement but have a lot of time in bunker gear and can understand the issues faced by people trying to well serve even those who can only manage a snide or even stupid remark about things they know nothing about.

     
  • Margurite posted at 6:53 pm on Wed, May 1, 2013.

    Margurite Posts: 680

    Gecroix I rarely agree with you but I would pitch a 50 to that as well. My guess is this officer has lots of weaponry to choose from and plenty of friends with extras. I know if it wasn't for the LEO in our community and others the NOLA PD would of been weaponless. Thier weapon room was in the basement of the PD. Total loss and they were pretty outgunned for a few days. I remember the call going out for any weapon that could be spared. Lots of weapons changed hands when the caravan left Galveston County for NOLA. I doubt if this LEO is worried other than being worried he might meet up with his own weapon under not so favorable circumstances. That makes LEO sick right there. Doubt if that LEO leaves a weapon in his vehicle again. Usually only happens once.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 6:44 pm on Wed, May 1, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3010

    Whether the kids took the cookies off a plate in the dining room, or the broke into a locked pantry to pull them from the cookie jar, mom and dad still have a discipline issue with the thieving brats. However, in the former case, they also need to consider a less enticing "security" system.

    Somehow, though, I'm suspecting that the thieves had a good idea they weren't stealing a bag of gym clothes.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 5:18 pm on Wed, May 1, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3623

    Response to gecroix posted at 5:03 pm on Wed, May 1, 2013:

    Well, we often hear advice from law enforcement to "not have your valuables visible" in your vehicle. Seems like this should not be a "do as I say, not as I do" kind of thing.

    Law enforcement (just as anyone else) should be held accountable for the follies that occur that closely relate to their profession. Ipso facto, stolen guns from a law enforcement agency's car is a real zinger. After all, if an English teacher writes a column and is wrought with grammatical errors, we would question that instructor's judgment and professionalism. Just as if a pilot crashed his plane for going the wrong direction, or falling asleep.

    Now, if a jeweler fails to secure his/her property with appropriate anti-theft measures, then - yes - he/she also shall fall under our scrutiny.

     
  • gecroix posted at 5:03 pm on Wed, May 1, 2013.

    gecroix Posts: 3000

    I guess the next thing we can expect is for members of other professions to start failing to control their inventory at all times and against all comers.
    Imagine if jewelers start getting jewelry stolen, and grocers get groceries stolen, and retailers get shoplifted, and car dealers have them stolen off the lot.
    I hope the loss of the officer's equipment doesn't start the domino's falling in these other, heretofore uneffected, areas.
    Hey, Officer.
    Never mind what can't be fixed. And if you need any help replacing that hardware I'll kick in 50 bucks out of my own pocket out of respect for Law Enforcement having to deal with the crappy people they are sworn to serve along with the normal ones.
    Just call me if so. I'm the only one in the book.
    The problem is deeper, potentially for other citizens, if the thief knew the victim was a law enforcement officer and did it anyway. Or did it to send a message to the Judge. Or any of a number of possible real scenarios, aside from random chance or daydreams.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 2:53 pm on Wed, May 1, 2013.

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    Lars, I believe they were all in the "go bag", which, if I understand correctly, is essentially a duffle bag of sorts.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 11:59 am on Wed, May 1, 2013.

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    Response to kevjlang posted at 11:28 am on Wed, May 1, 2013 (and Margurite) -

    Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking that it doesn't bode well to have an officer, of all people, get firearms stolen. Seems like a comedy of errors, so to speak.

    I mean, this appears like something that would come out of a Maxwell Smart show. Now, I'm curious is to HOW the officer lay these guns in the vehicle. If he had covered them up with an overcoat, blanket, or something....maybe a gun thief wouldn't have seen them in the 1st place. As it is, I'm not too optimistic on this one - the stolen weapons likely have gotten to someone (or some people) who end up doing something up to no good with them.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 11:28 am on Wed, May 1, 2013.

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    The thing that gets me with this is that the police are always telling people not to leave guns or anything else of value in your vehicle, and to not leave anything in plain sight. More than likely, these guns are going to be sold pretty quickly, hopefully to someone somewhat trustworthy, but we cannot be sure they won't be used in a crime.

    This story adds fuel to the argument about how well we can expect legitimate gun owners to properly maintain and store their guns. People would probably assume that police should be representative of the best handlers of firearms. If a police officer can lose custody of his guns this easily, can we still assume that responsible gun owners would not be likely have something like this happen to them? I'm going to make a wild guess that this officer's situation was atypical amongst his peers. I don't know if this would be atypical of the general popultion.

    There should be lessons to be learned from this, and I think that's what makes this a story.

     
  • Margurite posted at 10:39 am on Wed, May 1, 2013.

    Margurite Posts: 680

    The go bag carries lots of stuff. The number of guns stolen in this country are more private citizen than LEO. Althos when they hit a LEO car they usually get some pretty good weapons. If private citizens aren't plastered out in the paper anytime thier weapons are stolen in a burglary then why is it that this is a story? The story here is a mysterious black bag at a judges house that he felt was a threat to him. Kudos to him for calling it in but truth is that was just the house they dumped the empty non useful bag at. Of course John Cornyn will feel he was "targeted"........ My guess is they didn't know that was a judges house.

    This is a non story to be honest and what officers carry in thier personal vehicle is usually bought and paid for by them when it comes to vests and weapons and police gear. The rigs alone to carry all thier stuff can run them hundreds of dollars.

    This officer was't carrying evidence in the back of his personal car. Lots of officers share cars - you aren't going to leave your stuff in your cruiser. Cops are the worst thieves around........[beam] I'm no LEO person but I stayed at a Holiday INN last night.........

     
  • sverige1 posted at 7:19 am on Wed, May 1, 2013.

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    OK, so is this stolen bag part of an official police investigation item?

    Makes me wonder about the protocol necessary when law enforcement acquire, store, and transport things related to business. Maybe a law enforcement person can enlighten us on this, but wouldn't it normally be discouraged (if not against policy) to keep weaponry that isn't personal in a personal vehicle?

    That is, if something is found during police business, shouldn't things (including weaponry) stay in police cars and not even enter into personal vehicles to potentially get stolen?