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December 21, 2014

Group asks League City council to stop praying before meetings

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  • Jbgood posted at 4:58 pm on Wed, Jul 24, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 2009

    Ahhhhh Satan has heard me, so he sends out another of his people to confront me. We are not going there,..we don't deal with Awake. We deal with the Word. If you want to tell GOD something,...YOU tell Him yourself! I don't send messages to Satan, Prince Of Darkness by you,..do I? Naw, I use the name of Jesus and TELL him off, thank you very much,....now I got go,....I got work to do! I don't lose arguments, because I don't argue. I don't have to. We got GOD on our side,...and that is enough for JBG!! Goodbye.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 1:13 pm on Wed, Jul 24, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3192

    I think someone needs to slip JBG the Caffeine Free Diet Coke :-)

     
  • Margurite posted at 12:53 pm on Wed, Jul 24, 2013.

    Margurite Posts: 680

    You know every time you pass judgement you just make more room for someone else............ just sayin. JBG are you the little lady who knocks at my door bout every 6 weeks to sell me the Awake???? I'm not even a believer but I buy it out of courtesy. Seems there is quite a bit of democratic coutesy being lost on this rabid topic. Tell god to pay his taxes - then he will have a voice. **hands tissue to JBG to wipe his foaming mouth***..................... relax fella!! Somebody pass JBG a diet coke.

     
  • Jbgood posted at 12:02 pm on Wed, Jul 24, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 2009

    To me, all I'm hearing is the Devil's Chin Music! I continue to stand with GOD, and Jesus Christ, and I'm proud to say so! One thing Mr. Lang, it not all that much you will AGREE to except His Judgement,.....because YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ACCEPT IT!! There will be no choice in the matter when that day comes!
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    I do regard you as a worthy adversary,..but Satan must be getting desperate, sending his rag-tag,...beach warmers out confronting General JBG,...Brigadier in the Lord's army!

     
  • kevjlang posted at 11:09 am on Wed, Jul 24, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3192

    If believing that this country was founded on the principle of Government not ramming religous beliefs down the throats of the populace is "operating in darkness", then this country was founded on darkness.

    Certainly, you seem to want me to take offense in your remark, but I'm not going to. I know it's just Ole JBG telling it like he sees it. There's only one judge that I'm concerned about, and He know what's in my heart, and I'm sure He'll judge accordingly, and I will accept His judgement.

     
  • mojoboogie2 posted at 10:17 am on Wed, Jul 24, 2013.

    mojoboogie2 Posts: 61

    Our government was born to be a democracy. If you want a theocracy, move to the middle-east. It is a council meeting, not a prayer meeting. I worry about folks that constantly and loudly feel the need to ram their religion down your throat. why so insecure? What are you hiding? To me this is using Gods name for one's own vanity.

     
  • Jbgood posted at 10:06 am on Wed, Jul 24, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 2009

    That's because you are operating in Darkness Mr. Lang! Those who abide in DARKNESS, walks and operate in it too! You cannot see what God has given those who abide in the LIGHT to see.
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    You might not think Satan is behind this but he is,..and the fight is really the LORD's, all HE wants is those like JBG to WAKE Up, .....then STAND UP,...and then ...MOVE OUT!
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    This war is not going to stop,...just because those blinded to the truth,...like yourself sir,...plainly don't understand, that one is going on! Yes, maybe your Christian light, has grown dull,...and your hearing is miniscule to the point you cannot even hear GOD anymore! I don't know,...and t is no concern of mine, but My hand,...my life, and my spiritual sword, and combat weapons are at GOD's disposal!
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    I repeat...there is to sides to this war,...and every human being on the face of this earth is on one side or the other! If you are not on GOD's side, THEN BY DEFAULT YOU ARE ON SATAN'S SIDE! It has nothing to do with what you want concerning that!! It was set in the Garden Of EDEN! Genesis 3:15!
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    Now step back sir,...keep your head down! Me, and my Christian Army are coming through, slinging that TWO EDGED SWORD,.....decimating the army of SATAN, taking back what THEY have stolen from GOD's people! Get out of the way!!!!

     
  • kevjlang posted at 10:53 pm on Tue, Jul 23, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3192

    The thought of all of the different faiths hollering out to drown out, or avoid being drowned out gives me a headache.

    No one wants to shut out the voices of Christians. However, no one should want to shut out the voices of those who aren't Christian, either. One of the saddest periods in Christianity was the Crusades. We don't want to live through a modern incarnation of it. If you're truly proud of your faith, set a tone that others would be attracted to, not repelled from.

    I'm really hard pressed to see how there's any human respect in the notion that Christians need to do even 1/4 of what JBG is proposing. There is little more un-Christian than denying the civil rights of those that aren't Christian.

    I don't think this is a battle with Satan as much as it is a request for balance or at least a consideration of time and place. I don't think that turning this into some kind of holy war solves anything.

     
  • Jbgood posted at 9:36 pm on Tue, Jul 23, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 2009

    "He that is not with me....IS AGAINST ME; and he that gathers not with me scatters abroad." ( Matthew 12:30 ). There are only TWO sides in this war, God's side and Satan's side! I'm on God's side.

     
  • Jbgood posted at 9:16 pm on Tue, Jul 23, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 2009

    Satan and his,...are slick,..I'll give him that,.but,ahhhhh more grease please,....more grease is needed! God's people are slicker!! We know all the trick and wiles of the enemy, by the wisdom of the HOLY GHOST, see? Need I remind yall that we are NOW in a spiritual WAR? My people have already engaged the enemy since yesterday,..and we are giving yall ...........

     
  • Jbgood posted at 9:07 pm on Tue, Jul 23, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 2009

    Naw, Naw People, we are not going to stop praying! Our faces are set like flint,....just like Daniel's was when "OTHERS" like yourselves, tried to stop HIM from praying, way back in the day,...by having him thrown in the LION"S DEN! Same kind of persecution is going on now,...but it won't work,...just like it did not work on Daniel.
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    Now,...I want yall to stop insulting me, because I have a fragile ego. What if that ego break,....then what we gonna do for a General? [smile]

     
  • winmack posted at 9:00 pm on Tue, Jul 23, 2013.

    winmack Posts: 76

    Little by little our rights are stripped from us. We are at a Council meeting not a hospital and death bed. Ten years from now are we not going to be allowed to wear a Christian shirt to a council meeting? Here's a cost saving idea,... simply have a LC citizen say the lords prayer under the citizens right to address council. Somebody send me a check for saving LC a ton of money. Lol

     
  • mojoboogie2 posted at 7:00 pm on Tue, Jul 23, 2013.

    mojoboogie2 Posts: 61

    Well said NurseJayne,am a nurse as well.I have my own beliefs, would not dream of forcing them on others. When the patient and family circle up for prayer, I back out of the room and check back later. There is a time and a place for everything.

     
  • drumb47 posted at 6:42 pm on Tue, Jul 23, 2013.

    drumb47 Posts: 285

    I totally agree.

     
  • NurseJayne posted at 6:30 pm on Tue, Jul 23, 2013.

    NurseJayne Posts: 409

    Well, Margurite, we DO have a former minister as a Mayor in La Marque.

    There is a time and place for prayer.... of the right sort. I'm not particularly religious and I've said for years that going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car......

    But a prayer before surgery offers reassurance. As a nurse, I've often offered reassurance in the form of prayer..... and it's been proven in studies to be effective. Neither would a short prayer before a meeting, something like 'Grace' before a meal be particularly offensive. But preaching and proselytizing are not effective management tools for running a community.

    Religion was created, in essence, to align large groups towards a common goal. That someone would seek for everyone to work together is admirable.

    But we also have a very careful separation of church and state. I'm not going to push prayer on you before surgery... and neither would I push it on you in a city council meeting if someone objects.

    Like I said, if you want to create a feeling of Esprit De Corp, there are other ways to accomplish that goal.[beam]

    "I pledge allegiance to the flag....."

     
  • mojoboogie2 posted at 3:17 pm on Tue, Jul 23, 2013.

    mojoboogie2 Posts: 61

    Oh please folks it wasn't taking prayer out of schools that caused problems, it was removing discipline that did it. I'll agree with the pre-council meeting prayer if they make it fair and include Muslims, jews, hindus, buddists and pagins as well, c'mon folks we are not all christian and baptists here, so lets keep it fair. How would you like to sit through and listen to the prayer of someone else's belief. I just scroll through and ignore JBG's windbaggery, alternating capital words (shouting some words? Is he stuck at some imaginary tent meeting?) and narrow-mindedness.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 3:16 pm on Tue, Jul 23, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3192

    Shoot, I need to get my aftermarket buy on Coke shares in before the price skyrockets on JBG's increased demand :-) JBG's consumption does move markets [beam]

     
  • Margurite posted at 2:05 pm on Tue, Jul 23, 2013.

    Margurite Posts: 680

    Oh crap - the regulators are back................. mount up JBG - now see what ya'll went and done? He will be suckin that diet coke, whackin his bible, and preachin to the masses for months now.................. Enjoy JBG I know you are so wrapped up we might not see ya till christmas...............[beam]

     
  • Jbgood posted at 12:28 pm on Tue, Jul 23, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 2009

    Great News My Friends GREAT news indeed! The Major JBG has just got WORD that he has earned a Field Promotion to Brigadier General,..for his outstanding leadership and counter attack against SATAN and his servants!
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    I cannot believe this honor,..,... think about that nowwww! I jumped right over Lt. Colonel and Bird Colonel,..to Brigadier!!!! Can you imagine that? The great thing about these type of promotions are not money and prestige, but the anointing which comes with them.
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    We are going to fight for League City in the spirit,....in fact as I speak our army of prayer warriors and soldiers,....are at work, and have engaged the enemy! We mean business too! We are tired of the tired, foul mouth persecutions coming from SATAN and the World! We understand that it will come because JESUS said so in John 15:20.....
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    "Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also."
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    He said it again in 2 Timothy 3:12....
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    "Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."
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    Allow the General to explain WHY SATAN and his followers DON'T want the Body Of Christ praying! Prayer is a spiritual weapon which looses the hands of GOD to act in the earth on behalf of his people! In the Garden Adam destroyed his connection and unique relationship,..with God by obeying the enemy and shunning GOD.
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    Years later Jesus Christ came and through the finish work of the cross, and the POWER of the resurrection,...restored that relationship to those who accepts it. People who will accept it, must request from GOD through prayer,..petition, and supplication! God is not free to do anything He wants in the earth without the participation of his people! We have a free will, and HE will not violate that! So we have to petition/ask HIM through prayer for what we would have Him do for us! This is why some on the earth will end up in HELL , because they have a legal right to go!!! ( I Corinthians 3:9, II Corinthians 6:1,...Mark 16:20). We are supposed to work with GOD for change in this World,...because of the covenant He has with us, the NEW Covenant and Not the Old one!
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    Do what the Devil and his followers are trying to deceives you to do, and you will be playing right ion their hands!! They HATE PRAYER,....but they hate PUBLIC PRAYER with a passion,...for the reasons I have mentioned!
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    James 4:2
    "You desire but do not have, so you kill. You covet but you cannot get what you want, so you quarrel and fight. You do not have because YOU DO NOT ASK God."
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    "NUFF ..SAID!"
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    "REGULATORS ....MOUNT UP, AND LETS RIDE!!!!!!!!!!"


     
  • Margurite posted at 9:52 am on Tue, Jul 23, 2013.

    Margurite Posts: 680

    In LM we do both - sometimes the prayers get rather stagey in my opinion. I don't care if folks pray - sure isn't going to affect me one way or the other but when the prayer begins to become a preformance and goes on past 30 seconds then I figure you are doing more for yourself than the guidance you seem to plea for. Just my opinion. I'm more apt to pray out of respect during a 30 sec silence - than I am during a 2 minute tirade on your religeous views. No one wants to throw your god out - he just aint payin taxes the way I see it.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 9:49 am on Tue, Jul 23, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3192

    NurseJayne, that would take all of JBG's fun out of it. :-)

     
  • NurseJayne posted at 9:06 am on Tue, Jul 23, 2013.

    NurseJayne Posts: 409

    Here's an idea: acknowledge that the protestors DO have a point.

    Choose something less divisive before the meetings, like reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.

    Problem solved, no legal fees.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 2:22 am on Tue, Jul 23, 2013.

    sverige1 Posts: 3718

    OMG - folks who lean on the prayer thing are void of original thought. Then, if they think someone is "taking it away" from them, they get all emotional and try to put up the front that they're really doing something by protecting their "right" to say a childish prayer.

    There's a time and a place, and a seemingly cosmopolitan city like LC has no business invoking dumb prayers before doing business. This isn't "Little House on the Prairie" anymore.

    I can imagine there's plenty of non-Christians who cringe at the thought of a banal prayer when all they want to do is make sure the sewer is efficiently running in front of their house and that the city stoplights are functioning in a safe manner.

    After folks do their LC business, they can then go their FAV Chick-Fil-A and pray all they want to their made-up ghosts.

     
  • Robert Buckner posted at 5:33 pm on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    Robert Buckner Posts: 739

    Margurite, I still have confidence in ol' JBG. Don't abandon us now, LM needs major help in the ISD and at city hall.

     
  • Margurite posted at 4:13 pm on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    Margurite Posts: 680

    Hell JBG is all wrapped around the axel now.............[beam]

     
  • gigemkat posted at 2:52 pm on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    gigemkat Posts: 186

    12D. 13-1173 Discuss future funding for operating costs for a new City pool at Eastern Regional Park and direct staff as appropriate. (City Manager)

    Will the common taxpayers of League City pay for the Maintenance and Operation of this swimming pool?

    I remember VOTING -NO- on such a swimming pool at least a few times. The City of League City will eventually ram it down our throats. Please pray for League City, we need it.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 2:50 pm on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3192

    I'd suggest we try to find out what they really want before we start trying to round up the lawyers. They may little more than a simple acknowledgment of their concerns. That's cheap and easy and requires little, if any, legal assistance. Save the legal funds for things that critically affect the ability to operate the city.

     
  • gigemkat posted at 2:39 pm on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    gigemkat Posts: 186

    07-23-2013 - LC Council Meeting - New Business

    12A. 13-1170
    Discuss creation of an in-house City Legal Department and provide direction to staff as appropriate (Council Member Kinsey and Council Member Dawson)

    _ in-house City Legal Department _

     
  • winmack posted at 2:23 pm on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    winmack Posts: 76

    If LC wanted to save some costs, I imagine there is a firm within LC that would take the case on pricipal. Try Caldwell, if nothing else he will find a way to make the opposing firm spend a ton of money.

     
  • Jbgood posted at 2:19 pm on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 2009

    I apologize,..for a mistake below, I said in the third paragraph, " is Satan rips through League City.
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    I meant "IF Satan rips through League City.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 2:17 pm on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3192

    At this point, I would think that any decision on whether there will be a lawsuit depends on how council responds to this request. If they take the approach that JBG advocates, they probably will get sued, and may very well be ordered to curtail or quit the activity. If the take a compassionate and cooperative tone, they very well should be able to keep the invocations without offending Christians or non-Christians, nor facing a court challenge.

     
  • gigemkat posted at 2:16 pm on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    gigemkat Posts: 186

    The Reverend Johnnie B. Good should be invited to say a prayer at the League City Council Meeting tomorrow evening. League City needs lots of prayers!

     
  • Jbgood posted at 2:15 pm on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 2009

    I can only speak for myself, but when it comes to GOD my money is ALWAYS where my mouth is,...because MY MONEY IS HIS MONEY! I CAME HERE WITH NOTHING,.....AND IT IS CERTAIN WHEN I LEAVE,...I CAN CARRY NOTHING WITH ME,..but then again,..that's just how I think. ( I TIM.6:7 )
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    This is why I make it a practice to support my local church, and local groups like Star Of Hope, and many groups in Africa, and South America! Yes sir, Major JBG is for real!!! I'm the owner of nothing and steward of everything God has entrusted to me!!! lastly, I'm as real as this spiritual attack which the enemy has brought against League City,..and some of us are not going to stand idly by, and say and do nothing!! GET ON BOARD,...because we intend to ride out to confront the enemy, before he can get all the way to Galveston!
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    More than likely we will set up a BLOCKADE in Dickinson, in order to protect Galveston,...Santa Fe, LaMaque, Texas City, and Galveston. and Tiki Island, is Satan, rips through League City! If Dickinson falls, the rest of us might be in trouble!!!
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    If anybody is not to busy, they need to join us in our Spiritual counter attack on Satan's people! Would love to have you!!!! This is Major JBG out.

     
  • mickphalen posted at 1:41 pm on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    mickphalen Posts: 398

    It will be interesting to see whether those who complain about League City's legal costs will stand on a principle, or turn tail and run from the coming fight ....

     
  • kevjlang posted at 11:18 am on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3192

    JBG, who said anything about keeping our beliefs to ourselves? You can speak your beliefs all you want, as long as you recognize other people's right to posess and to speak their beliefs.

     
  • Jbgood posted at 10:18 am on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 2009

    Winmack,...I'll put you on my list! Now I'm hearing that we need to keep our beliefs to ourselves,..no use in being LOUD ABOUT WHAT GOD SAYS. Well let me explain something, THE GREAT COMMISSION says GO YE and TELL, and TEACH to all nations! It did not say sit back in the comforts of our homes, and keep the gospel quiet and ohhhhh so dignified! ( BALONEY!!!!).
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    It is to late to try to SNOW-JOB JBG with all the worldly brilliant reasoning, and logic for NOT doing what GOD says to do!! I've already said in one of my many posts below, that I hold the rank of MAJOR in this stuff,.....another year and I will be a BIRD COLONEL,...moving briskly toward the rank of General! It is to late to pull the wool over my eyes. Satan himself has to HUNT for those in the earth who he can deceive. ( I Peter 5:8 ). So don't waste your time nor your worldly education on trying to change me. Many have tied and failed miserably.
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    Man I love this stuff! I'm "SHO" glad God has chosen, and prepared me to,......
    "DO WHAT I DO!"
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    I got that from Ray Charles (BTW).

     
  • winmack posted at 9:50 am on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    winmack Posts: 76

    JB let me know when JBGism's is ready for print. Our Govrnment is full of politically correct pansies, its going to take a seriouse movement to invoke real change.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 9:50 am on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3192

    There is no word echoed from a mountaintop that has any more meaning than one whispered within the heart. I can stand out in the public square and shout all kinds of religious messages, and if the people I'm shouting to don't believe and live those words, they mean nothing. If they are words that mean something--words we all believe in--there is no need to shout them out.

     
  • Jbgood posted at 9:46 am on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 2009

    Hey, I'm not asking anybody to go take a AK47 Assault Rifle and shoot the Sheriff!!
    Naw,..that is what the world and it's followers will do, and what they are doing, if you will take a look!
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    This is SPIRITUAL WARFARE,...and the State don't have a cotton-picking thing to do with it! Satan himself can't stop us,...let along those who follow him.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 9:44 am on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3192

    If people have to speak their beliefs in public to be reminded of them, the speech is worthless, for they have to beliefs to speak of. If those two minutes really are the difference, then why is it that many of our most heinous of criminals are people that spend at least an hour every weekend in church services and Bible Study classes?

    It's not the voicing of the words, but the beliefs in the heart that mark our Christian behavior. The intent of prayer is not to offend others. For those that believe it is, then you are probably the ones offended when Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. pray around you.

    As stated before, I doubt that any court would decree that what LC Council is doing is abusive, coercive, or in any way offensive. I can think of no context in which the prayer is "needed", however, I can't think of a good reason why it must stop. However, if they were to take it to an "in your face" extreme, they would cross a line where they should be given a desist order. Their job is not to preach, but to do the people's business.

     
  • Jbgood posted at 9:36 am on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 2009

    This world continues to grow darker and darker while God's church hide out behind four walls on Wednesdays, Saturdays, and Sundays. It is time for the church to COME OUT! COME OUT from behind those walls of the Houses Of God!! That is where you learn, and worship and replenish! The real fight is out in the fields of life!
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    You go to the house of GOD to get what an automobile get at a service station! Refill,..refresh,.....and TOP OFF! Then back on the roads they go! Same with us!
    LETS GO MAN!!!! GET FIRED UP!!! EVERYBODY ELSE IS COMING OUT!
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    NOW IT IS TIME FOR CHRISTIANS TO DO THE SAME!!!! Ohhhhhh I can't wait!!!!

     
  • Cpointe_Mod posted at 9:25 am on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    Cpointe_Mod Posts: 222

    In case anyone out there had any lingering doubts about why church and state need to remain fully separated, the content of this comment stack will put those doubts to rest.

     
  • Jbgood posted at 9:19 am on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 2009

    I say again, this is spiritual warfare, I can understand if some are not prepared, but there are many among us WHO are! I hear-by call on all of those Christians, who are prepared, and who are NOT OFFENDED IN CHRIST, and not afraid, to join JBG in this spiritual war against that group sent by the enemy to attack League City!
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    I call all Christians, not only in League City, but every City in the Gulf Coast to unite, under the banner of cooperate prayer,...interceding for the Leaders of League City!
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    Remember this, it might be League City today, it might be Galveston tomorrow!
    You might not understand it all,....you don't have to,....Major JBG does!!!
    Lets ride!!!!

    PS Ohhhhhh how I love this!

     
  • gigemkat posted at 9:14 am on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    gigemkat Posts: 186

    Madeline Murray O'Hare - no to prayer in schools

    Benjamin McLane Spock - no to corporal punishment

     
  • Jbgood posted at 9:06 am on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 2009

    Well, now I see what the problem is, you just don't understand spiritual things. I have expounded on the Word Of God and you have not understood the exposition. This is not unusual,..for many in the day of Christ who were well educated, did not see,....and they made up for it by NOT BEING ABLE TO HEAR.
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    John 8:43
    "Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say."
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    Jesus said those very words to a bunch of doubters and complainers, who thought they had a handle on everything, but found out differently.
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    One of the staple rules of JBGism, which I am in the process of publishing in a book is this one:

    "It is not a shame to not know......but it is a SCANDAL, to not know,..and then not dig a little,.... putting in work in order to find out.

     
  • winmack posted at 9:00 am on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    winmack Posts: 76

    If prayer offends some, then they can walk out or plug their ears until prayer is over. Its a disgrace that we let a few dictate prayer in schools. We must not continue and allow the minority to choose for the majority.

     
  • Margurite posted at 8:43 am on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    Margurite Posts: 680

    I'm not a prayin woman but this is about money, money money. This organization is from Wisconsin - good grief. They don't give a rats azz if Texans pray or not - they only care cause they smell the money.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 6:08 am on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3192

    What harm did taking prayer out of the schools do? The violence we have is not the product of the loss of maybe a minute or two of prayers per day, but of the lack of good behavior during the other 1438 to 1439 minutes of the rest of the kids' days. Just saying grace, or a short prayer isn't enough to keep a violent and disrespectful brat from causing trouble.

     
  • gigemkat posted at 5:04 am on Mon, Jul 22, 2013.

    gigemkat Posts: 186

    We all sat, watched, and did absolutely nothing while the woman stripped prayer out of schools in America.

    There will be a lawsuit over prayers before the council meetings and all of the attorneys on both sides will be the ones that make the money.

     
  • Jbgood posted at 11:49 pm on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 2009

    Give me 2 + 2 I'll get you 4!!! You give 3 + 1,....I'll finally get there! My point is the POLICE presence in our schools today are tied to the changes we allowed SOME UNCOMFORTABLE OLD BIDDY,...on assignment from HELL to make in our schools, while we did and said nothing!
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    We are not going to let that happen in League City,...that's all I know!!!!

     
  • Jbgood posted at 11:41 pm on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

    Jbgood Posts: 2009

    Yea you have a point to be sure, but tell that to that DEAD woman who stripped prayer out of schools in America, while we all sat, watched, and did absolutely nothing!!
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    Before that we did not know anything about SCHOOL POLICE FORCES! I won't elaborate any further,..because that speaks for itself. Houston ISD has over 200 commissioned officers in their school system packing nines,....forties, and forty-fives, along with metal BOW-LO STICKS! San Antonio and Dallas have similar numbers.
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    I doubt if the CITY Of GAlveston has that many police officers!

     
  • kevjlang posted at 10:40 pm on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

    kevjlang Posts: 3192

    There is, and must be, a balance between free expression and obstructing others' right to free expression. This will become more important as our population continues to become more diverse. The founding fathers never intended our society to intentionally make practitioners of one faith to be made uncomfortable by practitioners of others. By all means, we should all be comfortable practicing our faiths. We should not, however be comfortable in ramming our faiths down others throats. If you feel it reasonable to overdo your celebration of faith and expect others to deal with it, then you cannot let your britches get into a wad when someone else gets obnoxious in their celebrations.

     
  • Jbgood posted at 9:07 pm on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    Amen Shellypearl! It is high time for Christians to stop apologizing for being Christians! It's time for Christians to come out of hiding,....mobilize, and stop peeping around the corner!
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    Is that the image of who Jesus entrusted authority in this world too, when he left?
    ( LUKE 10:19 )( ISAIAH 44:26 ).
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    All I know is this,... MAJOR JBG'S Christian Gorillas is ready to wage spiritual warfare,...and we know how to do it, to be sure! We have the anointing of GOD,..to do so!
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    They did me a favor! I love this!!! I don't know what to say! I love this better than fighting Viet Cong, and NVA Regulars! We will be waiting in Dickinson at the pass,....to hold it until reinforcement decide to RELIEVE US! If they get past the League City Christians! We can't let Dickinson fall because Dickinson is the key to the rest of the Southern Cities down here! Amen? This is WAR folks, and like General George Patton said, "HOW I LOVE IT SO!"
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    Get fired up!! Get fired up!! Lets go man!!!!!!!! We can take this whole country back -if we GET FIRED UP!!!

     
  • gigemkat posted at 8:47 pm on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    Marisa Bono is lead counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund.
    What about a day laborer?
    "Why it was necessary for the taxpayers to spend +/- $750,000 on a lawsuit they could not win?" PS
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    A Wisconsin based nonprofit, Freedom From Religion Foundation, sent a letter to Mayor Tim Paulissen asking that League City stop the practice of having a prayer before city council meetings.

    “Government prayers exclude a significant portion of Americans from the democratic process, are of dubious legality and are a repudiation of our secular history,” wrote Elizabeth Cavell, a staff attorney for the foundation.
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    League City should go ahead and FOLD em now. Marisa Bono will speak with Elizabeth Cavell and tell her how easy it is to sue the City of League City. League City will be beaten once again at the expense of the common taxpayer.

    All of the attorneys on both sides will be the ones that make the money.

     
  • shellypearl posted at 3:32 pm on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    Oh yes Satan does exit.

     
  • shellypearl posted at 3:30 pm on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    The first settlers to our country came here for religious freedom. They based everything they knew on one God. People are granted religious freedom here still. If you don't like the prayer put your i phone earphones in and listen to something else!

     
  • shellypearl posted at 3:28 pm on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    Test

     
  • Jbgood posted at 1:24 pm on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    Yea, she was the one who said she, did not look for GOD in every corner, crack, cranny,and failed to find HIM,...( WHICH MEANS she knew it was a GOD),..she went on to say SHE did not want GOD in her business, and that was why she was WHO SHE WAS! Well here is what JBG says, All that is why She is WHERE she is!
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    My job is not to judge,...but my job and duty is to watch the FRUIT PRODUCTION of individuals because Christ said you can TELL who is HIS by the FRUIT they bare! I got a Christian right to look at others' fruit as they have to look at mine! The other part of my job is to preach, and tell! I'm going to do just that too!
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    The Holy Spirit's job is to convict, and Satan's job is to CONDEMN! John 3:17 says God did not send his Son in this WORLD to CONDEMN the world, but that through HIM the world might be saved! So the condemnation which is in the World today,..is coming from SATAN that many thinks DOES NOT EXIST!
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    If they keep breathing until they stop, thy will know for sure if DEVILS, and SATAN exists,...of coarse they will be like that rich man who HEARD the Word of God in time, BUT PRAYED IT TO LATE! Once you get translated to HELL,...no use in praying then. All you are doing is suffering for a period of time, until the Great White Judgement is over, then it will be OFF to the Great Lake!
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    So I say to League City Council,..Satan has asked for you, he is moving on you to sift you like WHEAT!
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    I have prayed for you, that your faith faileth not! I hope League City take care of business, because IF they come down here,....THEY WILL GET DEALT WITH SPIRITUALLY! You start in on this stuff,...this is where i live!!!! I LOVE THIS STUFF!!! Lets go church,,.GET FIRED UP! Lets go man!!!
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    We have been letting the DEVIL divide us to long! He has this country topsy turvy,...and divided now!! People are thinking it is because ZIMMERMAN VS MARTIN,...BLACK VS WHITE! Nawwww people! It is the DEVILS USING HIS EVIL MATH TO SUBTRACT, DIVIDE AND CONQUER,...even Ray Charles would see that if he was here! He is doing this because his time is getting short and he know it! He knows scripture as I mentioned earlier:
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    Matthew 12:25 ) Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand.
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    Where is God in all this, well God is waiting on the church to MOBILIZE and come out of hiding and Join JBG! I say lets make an example out of these, PHILISTINES!! WANT TO? Listen either I ride out with you or I ride out without you,...BUT JBG is riding out! I'm in a spiritual battle with these people even if I have to stand alone!! I have taken it personal!!!
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    James 5:16
    "Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."
    Amennnnnn?

     
  • gigemkat posted at 11:47 am on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    Madalyn Murray O'Hair was hatched in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and as an infant, she was baptized into the church as a Presbyterian. Later on she moved to Austin, Texas. In 1995 she was kidnapped, murdered, and her body mutilated, along with her son Jon Murray and granddaughter Robin Murray O'Hair, by former American Atheist office manager David Roland Waters.

    Do really bad things happen to really bad people?

     
  • abknape4 posted at 11:13 am on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    Pray on!

     
  • gogrannygo posted at 11:10 am on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    Why do some people use the freedom we have in this country to protect their right to be a Christian, but then attack those who use it it to not be? I also find it peculiar how many people are not familiar with our history and think this is a Christian nation when our founding fathers never intended it to be, they intended it to be a free country. To bad so many people pick and choose what they want to follow out of the bible. This world would truly be a better place if people just lived by the teachings of Jesus Christ, whether you believe he was the mesiah or not. However some people love themselves too much to love everyone else as he did.

     
  • Robert Buckner posted at 10:47 am on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    Why would a Wisconson organization concern themselves with the agenda of a Texas city?

     
  • drumb47 posted at 10:14 am on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    Where there is good there is evil. Where there is a +, there is a -.

    My Christian teachings and experience has revealed that Satans greatest
    trick on man is to convince Mankind that he doesn't exist.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 10:14 am on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    While most of our founders were of Judeo-Christian backgrounds, they had all seen and lived with religious persecution, and were wise enough to codify the requirement that government should stay away from any and all religious favoritism. They decided that government should not pick winners, but should merely make sure that the people could choose freely.

    I don't think a short prayer interferes with people being able to choose freely. A Taco Cabana sign inside a publicly-owned sports arena does not deny anyone the opportunity to choose Burger King.

     
  • Matthuskey posted at 9:59 am on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    SATAN does not exist, FOOL

     
  • mainlandlass posted at 9:09 am on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    She referred to our secular history. We don't have a secular history - we have a Judeo-Christian history. And if a LC member of this organization contacted her, let the coward come forward & identify him/herself.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 8:59 am on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    From a religious standpoint, they don't need to do the prayer. From the context of doing the people's business, they don't need to do the prayer. However, I can't see this as being coercive. As long as council doesn't take this "feel good" moment and follow it up with actions that obviously make people of other, or no, faiths uncomfortable, it merely comes down to whether it's better for one group to lose their "feel good" so that another group gets an equal "feel good".

    My feeling is that as long as council keeps the prayers short and sweet, only those that want to be offended will be.

     
  • drumb47 posted at 8:45 am on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    If anything, League City needs to have more prayers before and after. Maybe then there will less "fist fights" to erupt. during meetings.

     
  • Jbgood posted at 8:35 am on Sun, Jul 21, 2013.

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    "She also quoted the Bible: “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others … When you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father who is unseen.”"!
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    Typical example of Satan quoting scriptures out of context and making another meaning, or another gospel! Here is an example:
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    Matthew 27:5) So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself,......(Luke 10:37).....YOU GO AND DO LIKEWISE!
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    Any fool can take scripture out of context, especially if they are not receiving revelation from the Holy Ghost. There are those who do this day in and day out!
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    It will be interesting to see what GOD'S people,......CHRISTIANS do about this who lives in League City!! Will they rise us and back GOD or will they lay low, like many of us did when prayer was taken out of schools, and now Galveston County Sheriffs are patrolling their hallways, toting guns and steel nightsticks?
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    It is time to stand up in League City! Satan is trying you first in this County, but if you are easy, he will be in Friendswood next, or Pearland, or Galveston! Lets stop him in League City! Christians,...its time to mount up,...and roll out! I Peter 5:8!!!!