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August 21, 2014

County to be an ice box next 2 days

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  • Sweet Sue LaRue posted at 5:37 pm on Wed, Jan 8, 2014.

    Sweet Sue LaRue Posts: 97

    Oh, caca poopoo! You poor boys are so silly.

    Please tell me how fast we are traveling through space, as we are spinning around and around and around.

     
  • Jake Buckner posted at 1:39 pm on Wed, Jan 8, 2014.

    Jake Buckner Posts: 1500

    Yes, I'm ready for some "local warming." I've probably lost my papayas, and I have some damage to hibiscuses and jatropha. Most will be fine after a couple months of spring weather.

    When looking for a retirement location I discovered that Galveston experiences, on the average, 2 days per year of freezing temps. I'll use some of the faulty reasoning I often see on these forums, and state categorically that we're done for 2014 -- we've had our 2 days, and now we're in the clear!

    [cool]

     
  • sverige1 posted at 1:08 pm on Wed, Jan 8, 2014.

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    Response to OnTheMark posted at 12:52 pm on Wed, Jan 8, 2014:

    Very well put and "on the mark", OnTheMark. I, for one, have no scientifical experience, yet I grasped enough information through mainstream magazines and article to know that much of the earth's warm-up has been human caused.

    Most blatant is the fossil fuel burning. I also learned that this was 1st discovered over 100 years ago by a Swedish scientist. So, the concept of global warming is NOT new. Post industrial revolution has contributed to the problem. And, that CO2
    is the largest factor in warming trends. SCIENCE 101

     
  • OnTheMark posted at 12:52 pm on Wed, Jan 8, 2014.

    OnTheMark Posts: 32

    You can't make such an all encompassing statement and be correct. I own oil stock, but I'm a scientists by education and I know the climate is changing to warmer in areas of the earth. The facts speak for themselves. Anyone that will take the time to research the facts by actually reading scientific journals and textbooks can plainly see the facts show we are in a period of global warming. Yes, the earth experiences periods, short and long, of changing climate, which is also proven by the facts. What is not proven, to the satisfaction of many scientists and industrialists, is whether the current warming trend is caused or enhanced by humankind.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 2:17 pm on Tue, Jan 7, 2014.

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    Actually, the energy companies aren't anywhere near as much against all of the global warming and carbon reduction discussions as their lobbyists and congressional supporters make it sound. In most cases, they aren't against the proposed changes as much as the timing of the changes. A couple years after a big refinery upgrade, for example, isn't the time to be asking them to modify thier process, instrumentation, or equipment. They'd like to see one generation of changes complete their life cycles before disrupting things again. They'd also like to see the technology proove itself before committing millions to integrate it. It doesn't hurt if they can get one of their competitors to be the guinea pig first.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 1:42 pm on Tue, Jan 7, 2014.

    sverige1 Posts: 3188

    Well, I don't own oil stocks but I have some plants I'm worried about.

    I'm trying to see if my rubber tree(s) survived this cold snap. We'll see in a day or two, but think they aren't frozen after all. I don't think we got quite as cold as we did 3 years ago. Back then, I had to cut their stumps to the ground and they grew back from the bottom.

     
  • Sweet Sue LaRue posted at 12:35 pm on Tue, Jan 7, 2014.

    Sweet Sue LaRue Posts: 97

    Let us break this down into Part One and Part Two.

    Part One: You own Oil Stocks
    Part Two: You do NOT own Oil Stocks

    These two parts should provide the two separate mindsets, that have different and opposing opinions on this subject.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 10:31 am on Tue, Jan 7, 2014.

    kevjlang Posts: 2779

    A country can have a good government and still fall victim to a famine if it has bad neighbors. If a country's own resources fail to produce enough food for its people, it will be reliant on the good graces of other governments. If the government that have the excess food are not willing to share, that other country will be victimized. Not because its own government used the famine to control its citizens, but because external governments are poor humanitarians.

    What we've also seen in Africa, for existence, is that countries with ports have intercepted food designated for the residents of a land-locked country.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 8:08 am on Tue, Jan 7, 2014.

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    I wonder if any of you folks who disclaim global warming have ever seen the nature shows where polar animals are clammoring for their food sources, having many of their nesting bases eroded, et cetera. EX: Sea turtles nesting beaches have eroded due to rising sea levels - cause is melting polar ices. The data is glaringly obvious. Read up on it, and here's a guiding article to start -

    http://www.neaq.org/conservation_and_research/climate_change/effects_on_ocean_animals.php

     
  • IHOG posted at 8:00 am on Tue, Jan 7, 2014.

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    Kevjlang.

    Like most conservatives I am not isolationist.
    A drougth or flood can't cause a famine where a good government rules. It's people and government will work together to feed all.
    Governments like North Korea use famine to control it's subjects.
    Note.. I said subjects not citizens.
    You have never experienced a government like N. Korea and have no idea how brutal a socialist government can be.
    The state must be preserved but the people are a renewable resource.

     
  • IHOG posted at 7:46 am on Tue, Jan 7, 2014.

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    On the Mark
    I hope you refere to my messy spelling. I do OK for being Dislexic if I go slow.
    If you can figure out what was ment I guess it isn't too bad.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 11:34 pm on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

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    IHOG, there are many conservatives in this country that favor isolationism. I guess you're stating your position against isolationism. Under isolationism, a drought or a flood over a significant area can trigger a famine. Of course, when a drought or flood causes a local loss of food production, countries that have things to trade can trade for food. However, what about those countries that don't have any commodities they can trade? Should a benevolent nation supply its surplus to feed that poor country, or should that country hold out until the other country can find something to trade?

     
  • OnTheMark posted at 8:08 pm on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

    OnTheMark Posts: 32

    One word........dictionary.

     
  • IHOG posted at 4:57 pm on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    Any y'all see the report an American ice breaker is headed to the antartic to rescue the Russian and Chinese ice breakers trapped in ice they went there to prove the ice was melting.
    The coldest tempretures ever in the antartic was recorded this year. Following that the coldest tempretures ever in the artic was recorded this year.
    Gore goons know why.
    They say global warming caused it. When it's warm somewhere it has to be colder elsewhere.
    NASA's global monoturing system says the worlds tempreture has changed only 0.1 degree in the last 20 years. 0.1 degree colder than it was in 1998?
    Sea levels fell 0.4 inches since 1998. Back to where they were 20 years ago.
    All famins since history has been recorder were caused not by a shortage of food. They are caused by people not having the money to buy the worlds surplus of food. Their governments limited their earnings and caused them to starve.
    In other words famins are caused by governments.
    Sometimes on purpose like Zimbabwye, North Korea and Somalia.

     
  • Sweet Sue LaRue posted at 4:11 pm on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

    Sweet Sue LaRue Posts: 97

    Jan 6th 2014 Cheerios Says No to Monsanto - General Mills announced late last week that it would be making Cheerios GMO-free. The move is one of the first major responses by an American company to address the growing consumer concern over genetically modified organisms (GMOs). If this is the beginning of a trend, the impact on seed-technology companies like Monsanto could be substantial.

    Monsanto is the cause of global warming. Someone get in touch with Buzbee.

     
  • IHOG posted at 3:31 pm on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

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    Our war of independence and Civil war were during a three century cold spell.

     
  • IHOG posted at 2:47 pm on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

    IHOG Posts: 2486

    Wolly Mamouths and Saber tooth tigers must have caused global warming.
    This warming trend started 12,000 years ago at the end of the last global ice age.
    It hasn't been a straight line warming. Several times there was cooling for centuries.
    Followed by more centuries of warming.
    When the Vikings settled Greenland they had farms which are now covered by glaciers.

     
  • Jake Buckner posted at 2:30 pm on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

    Jake Buckner Posts: 1500

    I love this forum!

     
  • kevjlang posted at 1:38 pm on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

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    I believe that the numbers allegedly skewed are the ones that portray a linkage between the recorded temperatures and greenhouse gasses generated by human activity. If you follow the money, there's plenty of it being thrown around on both sides of the issue. Not because the phenomenon doesn't exist, but because of the potential economic impacts of dealing with it and the possible causes.

    A disproportionate amount of energy, I believe, is being spent on aguing the causes rather than discussing how we're going to deal with it. After all, even if it's shown that human activity is causing it, we'll probably need a generation or more to change our behavior. The behavioral changes needed to adapt to the conditions should be more incremental and evolutionary, versus the revolutionary and drastic changes we'd have to make to eliminate any impact that can be connected to us.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 1:36 pm on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

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    Let's see. Over the past year, the US Budget Deficit dropped below the trend line, so I guess we would be correct in saying that the long term trajectory for US Budget Deficits is downward?

    Making long-term global projections based on short-term local data is pretty dangerous--almost progressive. I'll bet that if we found temperature records from the last ice age, we'd find areas on the globe that were above freezing. Would that, then, mean that the ice age didn't exist?

     
  • sverige1 posted at 12:45 pm on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

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    Response to carlosrponce posted at 12:16 pm on Mon, Jan 6, 2014:

    Well, I don't see how it is bad to recycle and help the environment. You bet...."Captain Planet" was da bomb! "Linka, with the power of the wind!"

     
  • miceal o'laochdha posted at 12:25 pm on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

    miceal o'laochdha Posts: 505

    Probably no need to keep changing terms (global warming vs. climate change) to accommodate changing perceptions.

    According to a 60 Minutes segment last night (you know we can trust THEM!), the volcano lurking beneath Yellowstone National Park will wipe out all life in Earth one of these days anyway so, it may be best for us all to focus on that.

    I think human abuse of Earth by excessive use of snowmobiles is the root cause for this impending catastrophe.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 12:16 pm on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

    carlosrponce Posts: 1950

    "The polar regions ARE melting!" - Tell that to the crew of the Chinese and Russian ships stuck in the ice near Antarctica.
    GENESIS 1:28 God blessed them, saying: "Be fertile and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it. Have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and all the living things that move on the earth."
    We are custodians of the earth but there are those who would have us worship Mother Earth and their goddess, Gaia. Did you grow up watching that propaganda cartoon "Captain Planet"? I will not bow at that altar.

     
  • sverige1 posted at 11:10 am on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

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    Oh Dios Mio, Carlos. Let's consider this: What would God think of us humans and the decades of abuse that has been put upon Mother Earth? I don't think He/She would be pleased. We all must remember that we are "borrowing" from our creator. We have to take care of it and heed the climate warnings. The polar regions ARE melting!

    LEVITICUS 25:23-24 -

    "The land must not be sold permanently, because the land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants. Throughout the country that you hold as a possession, you must provide for the redemption of the land."

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 10:45 am on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

    carlosrponce Posts: 1950

    The fact is that Global Warming is a myth perpetuated by those who want to pad their pockets with government grants. They have proven the that numbers were skewed to prove their point - and that's not very scientific.

     
  • kevjlang posted at 10:43 am on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

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    Carlos knows that quite well. It doesn't stop him from throwing out those comments everytime we get a cold snap, though.

    The thing that's really difficult to keep on point in these discussions is that Global Warming is what the data says, and there's very little scientific debate that we are experiencing a period of Global Warming. The debate is in regards to whether this is just a normal cycle, a normal cycle with exaggerated swings, or whether human activity has any connection to it.

    The argument that Carlos seems to cling to is the one that disputes the human connection, and if it's not human influenced, then it isn't happening at all. While it's not likely that the pace of Global Warming is anything that will directly impact human ability to survive, the scientific data has shown some impacts to the food chain, and, to some extent, the habitability of some of our land areas (coastal flooding, for example). Now, whether any of this will result in significant impacts to our way of life is anyone's guess at this time.

    We may not be able to determine what's causing it, but we certainly can take measures to account for it, and be prepared to make adjustments where needed to accomodate the changes. Or, put our heads in the sand and claim that since we didn't do it, it isn't happening.

     
  • OnTheMark posted at 9:10 am on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

    OnTheMark Posts: 32

    "Global warming" is a CLIMATE phenomenon, not a WEATHER OCCURANCE. To the uninformed it easy to discount the facts of long term global warming when brief occurances of extreme cold weather seem to contradict the word "warming". It's a similar scenario to a famine. A famine still exists even if a portion of the population obtains food to sustain them for a brief period.

     
  • carlosrponce posted at 7:49 am on Mon, Jan 6, 2014.

    carlosrponce Posts: 1950

    Thank goodness for "Global Warming"! Just think of how cold it would be without it! By the way, you can now purchase Al Gore's Book "An Inconvenient Truth" for $1. Get it while it's HOT - pun intended.